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Originally posted by ajay59
Obama can not even run for President from jail or another country, this time! People are awakening and are going to ignore the other upcoming liars and install Ron Paul! The lies and slight-of-hand are exposed in this nation and the people are not going to take it anymore!
Originally posted by braindeadconservatives
I am not being lied to, you are making stuff up here are the raw stats from the same source
that conservative blogger used...
The trick is that when those 5 million are not counted as in the work force, they are not counted as unemployed either. They may desperately need and want jobs. They may be in poverty, as many undoubtedly are, with America suffering today more people in poverty than in the entire half century the Census Bureau has been counting poverty. But they are not even counted in that 8.3% unemployment rate that Obama and his media cheerleaders were so tirelessly celebrating last week.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Eurisko2012
I think Peggy Noonan is WRONG! I think the GOP is grossly underestimating Obama, and his supporters, and his fundraising capacity, and the Liberal voter machine that will turn out record numbers of voters. The GOP will have a lukewarm turnout for their lukewarm candidate that is a lukewarm conservative, so Peggy Noonan should hve said that the GOP cannot win the election.
Originally posted by xuenchen
An article from January has some figures about jobs.
Jobs create tax revenues.
During the debate over the Keystone project, the oil industry rolled out a series of studies claiming that pipeline construction would create 20,000 temporary jobs in the United States and that lower oil prices (they didn’t say exactly how much lower) resulting from the new crude supplies would create as many as 250,000 more jobs across the country over the long term. These numbers were cited repeatedly by politicians who supported the pipeline.
However, the first number refers to “person-years” of employment — a single job that lasts two years is counted twice; and in any case, it pales compared with the overall U.S. employment challenge. The second number is more impressive but relies on an overly optimistic estimate of how much the pipeline would have reduced global oil prices. The administration’s rejection of the pipeline will probably add less than a dollar a barrel to the long-term price of oil, hardly a decisive factor when prices are already around $100 per barrel.
To highlight some of the main points made in this paper:
» The construction of KXL will create far fewer jobs in the US than its proponents
have claimed and may actually destroy more jobs than it generates.
» The industry’s US job claims, and even the State Department’s analysis, are linked
to a $7 billion KXL project budget. However, the budget for KXL that will have a
bearing on US jobs figures is dramatically lower—only around $3 to $4 billion.
» The claim that KXL will create 20,000 direct construction and manufacturing
jobs in the US is unsubstantiated. There is strong evidence to suggest that a
large portion of the primary material input for KXL—steel pipe—will not even be
produced in the US
» The industry’s job projections fail to consider the large number of jobs that could
be lost by construction of KXL. This includes jobs lost due to consumers in the
Midwest paying 10 to 20 cents more per gallon of gasoline and diesel fuel. These
additional costs ($2 to $4 billion) will suppress other spending and cost jobs.
Furthermore, pipeline spills, pollution and increased greenhouse gas emissions
incur significant human health and economic costs, thus eliminating jobs.
Put simply, KXL’s job creation potential is relatively small, and could be completely
outweighed by the project’s potential to destroy jobs through rising fuel costs, spill
damage and clean up operations, air pollution and increased GHG emissions.
Originally posted by 1yearning2bfree
reply to post by getreadyalready
I'm just curious...since it appears from your comments that you are an Obama supporter, why do you have a Ron Paul 2012 logo in your signature?
edit on 4/1/2012 by 1yearning2bfree because: (no reason given)edit on 4/1/2012 by 1yearning2bfree because: (no reason given)
Peggy Noonan: Obama Cannot Win The Coming Election
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Peggy Noonan: Obama Cannot Win The Coming Election
It's seven months until the election. ANYTHING can happen. Look at how Obama got that bump in the polls when Bin Laden was taken out ... and then he sunk in the polls again within a week. If TPTB want Obama in, they'll false flag something or get the race riots going this summer or whatever to make sure he's in. I'm betting on racial tensions in August when it's really hot and people's tempers are short anyways ..
Originally posted by Star128
Voter fraud is all pervasive and rampant. Even the most objective and random examination proves this.
Ron Paul may very well have several states behind him and you cannot prove otherwise.
The current stage of nomination proves nothing, so anyone making 'guarantees' is making a fool of themselves.
Due diligence by a review of past elections shows this also, as past winners crashed and burned.
Each and every single promise made by the incumbant has proved a LIE.
Couple that with the fact each and every one of his appointees comes from Wall Street- NO where else.
The political parties are obsolete illusions kept alive by those who forgotten where they came from.
MSM has disgraced themselves to the extent that half their viewers have tuned them out. Those still tuned in are likely dozing.
If the senate, congress, and the supreme court all prove to be bought off shills, which very well may happen, our incumbant will declare hinself supreme sovereign/emporer/god.
At this point, more realistic considerations would include;
Will there be much left of us once WW3 starts?
and
Will we even HAVE elections?
No Constitution = No America!
Originally posted by Indellkoffer
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Peggy Noonan: Obama Cannot Win The Coming Election
It's seven months until the election. ANYTHING can happen. Look at how Obama got that bump in the polls when Bin Laden was taken out ... and then he sunk in the polls again within a week. If TPTB want Obama in, they'll false flag something or get the race riots going this summer or whatever to make sure he's in. I'm betting on racial tensions in August when it's really hot and people's tempers are short anyways ..
No "false flags" (which I don't believe in) are needed. Romney's the front runner but he's not THAT popular, and many very conservative Christians won't vote for a Mormon. Polls (verified by poll watchers) show that no Republicans are energized about any of their candidates and I suspect a lot of Republicans are going to say "my vote won''t count and I won't vote for either of those guys so I'm staying home."
Democrats, however, will be out to vote. I agree that this could change drastically (if something happened to Obama and Biden suddenly ended up as the candidate) but at this point it looks like a low turnout on the Republican side.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
I am about the farthest thing from an Obama supporter that one can be, but that doesn't change the fact that between Obama, Romney, and Santorum...... Obama is the clear winner. If the GOP wants to get off their arses and find a Conservative that isn't a religious nut or a Billionairre mogul patsy, then the GOP has a shot. That is why there is a Ron Paul banner in my siggy. I will likely be writing in Ron Paul at the polls, and there are plenty more like me, and that means Obama will be a double-digit winner.
If the GOP actually puts up a candidate like Paul, or Huntsman, or Johnson then maybe they will get my vote, but I'm not going to fall for the "anybody but Obama" guise and vote for some liberal candidate with an (R) by his name, and I'm not going to vote for some idiot that wants to tighten government restrictions, outlaw porn, expand the Patriot Act and NDAA, and fully outlaw Abortion without common sense, and then still has the audacity to call their self a "Conservative?" That isn't conservative, that is more intrusive and bigger government which is LIBERAL!!
Everyone is on the right, get over it. Literally it's become an argument about who is more to the right and real liberals have been left out in the cold.
To me, at the most basic level, Liberal = Bigger Govt, while Conservative = Smaller, extremely limited government.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by milominderbinder
I can't quote that whole post, or I would. I have traditionally voted Republican because I hate the growth of the social programs, but I agree 100% with everything you said in your post. The religious zealotry has ruined the Republican party and has overcome everything that used to be Conservative about it. The Republicans are a far cry from Conservative, and these days I find myself agreeing with the Democrats a lot more often than the Republicans.
I too, as a white, registered Republican, voted for Obama in 2008, not because of white-guilt, but because of McCain fear!! McCain/Palin was the scariest thing I have ever seen at the polls in my lifetime, and people actually supported them blindly? WTF?
Obama was an unknown, and his inexperience is showing, and he has been a terrible mistake for our foreign policy, and he has allowed Pelosi to railroad him into doing anything she asks, and he has been terrible for the long-term economy, although he has allowed the Fed to ease the sting of the current crisis, but I would have preferred the bandaid approach to get this over with, not the death by 1000 needles approach we instituted. Still, after 3.5 terrible years under Obama, I still think it was a better vote than McCain. I also think this November, a choice between Obama and Romney is no choice at all, and I will either write in Ron Paul, or I will just get drunk and buy more bullets to help me get through the next 4 years.
Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by getreadyalready
To me, at the most basic level, Liberal = Bigger Govt, while Conservative = Smaller, extremely limited government.
So you are simply changing the definition of the word to suit yourself. These terms have actual meanings and they are so misused as to be meaningless at this point. Ron Paul is considered to be Libertarian, this is actually a variant of Liberal philosophy. Most of the people championed on ATS are classical liberals. As for the people you constantly call "liberal", they are considered to be "neo liberal" and are generally regarded as right wing. And no, I didn't just make this up. These are the accepted positions as defined by most political scholars.
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Instead of focusing on unemployment, declining home values and foreclosures,
Obama played 9,000 rounds of golf and gave us Obamacare ( DOOMED) ,
Dodd-Frank FinReg and Solyndra.
Peggy Noonan says Obama has been transformed into a Not - So - Smooth Operator.
- WSJ: Peggy Noonan -