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Originally posted by fedeykin
Originally posted by ChiForce
reply to post by fedeykin
Is this "vibration" a new age concept? I don't recall reading anything in Chi meditation or Tai Chi practice mentioning about "vibration." However, Yi consciousness is essential to move your chi where you want it to go, internally and externally.
It was a concept put forth by another poster, Starchild. I guess it is new age, but you would have to ask her.
I was discussing it trying to understand the concept and relating it to what I know.
edit on 30-3-2012 by fedeykin because: (no reason given)
Only problem is that when I did do it, it left me very, very weak as if I had not slept for an entire day.
No matter what I did, my body just could not take any more. Now, I was not in peak physical shape, so that certainly could have had something to do with it, but it felt as though even if I would have been, there was some kind of barrier, a limitation as to just how much energy my body could hold.
Nobody is going to tell me that it is not possible. I know it is.
Originally posted by Starchild23
What makes you think I'm a her? Maybe I am, maybe I'm not.
In any case, no "New Age" concept is really new age. It's what I call "Rediscovery"...because they have been around for thousands of years; we're just rediscovering them.
Everything involving energy is vibrational. That's a fact.
A great example “form of the formless” in action from the Khoisan trance healing culture is when the cable t.v. travel host Andrew Zimmern visited a traditional Bushmen village of the Juntwazee (Zimmern's spelling) to join in their hunting/gathering cuisine. Zimmern got an experience, a rare moment shown on cable t.v., much more than he expected: Toward what I believed to be the end of the evening, Xaxe, a great hunter, healer, and shaman, laid hands on me....I felt the energy, his energy, surge through my body. He had his hands on me for about twenty-five or thirty seconds, but it felt like he had only touched me for a split second. Time stood still. I literally had a short out of body experience. I could see him touching me from just above my body, almost like I was floating six feet off the ground, watching myself. All of a sudden I was back in my body observing an image of him thumbing through the book that contained all the pictures and moments in my life. I saw images of my childhood I hadn't remembered in years, pictures of my mother and me walking on a beach and shelling, very strong images. At the time, both during his touch and immediately afterward, I described it as him flipping through the pages of my life....Later the next morning, I spoke with Xaxe about the trance dance. He told me he wanted access to me in a way that was not possible through a translator....Xaxe's curiosity was such a caring, loving gesture....When he detached from me it felt like someone was unplugging a lamp from a wall socket. As he let go of me and continued to dance around the fire, I spontaneously burst into uncontrollable tears....I had been stripped to my emotional core, completely stunned by what I had witnessed so up close and personal.151 151 Andrew Zimmern, The Bizarre Truth: how I walked out the door mouth first – and came back shaking my head (Random House, 2009), 234-5.
Then, he said he wanted to make another demonstration. He grasped a piece of paper from the table, newspaper. He put it in his hand and just stared at it. Within one or two minutes, smoke came out and then, Voom! Fire. I just said, "Wow." After my first master's meditations, my back pain completely went away but I still had two bone spurs on my spine. So, I asked Master Yau if he could do some thing for my back. He said, "Oh, yes." He used two fingers to touch my back. Within one or two minutes, his fingers felt like two burning hot iron stakes. Very, very hot. Oh, you just don't know the sensation. It was like fire burning there. Later, when I got home I found two fingerprints on my back where he touched me. To tell the truth, I also wanted to test Master Yau to see whether the burning paper was real or not. Many people called themselves Qigong masters but they were fakes. They would make demonstrations like that but put some sort of chemical on the paper and hold it in the sun and it would burst into flames. Like a magician's trick. So, I still did not trust him completely. But, after he touched me with his two fingers, and the bone spurs completely disappeared, I totally believed in him and told him I wanted to have him teach me.
Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
reply to post by fedeykin
Nope -- that dude lived in the U.S. since 8 years old.
So he wasn't a Shaolin qigong master.
I think it might be this Shaolin monk Yao aka Yau -- he's got a "iron body" demonstration somewhere online -- but I'm not sure if it's the same one:
Yeah here it is -- iron body demonstration, Shaolin Monk Yao
If you follow German -- this Shaolin qigong master Yan Xin wears glasses because the laser energy from his eyes is too strong!! He was the first master who first healed Chunyi Lin
edit on 31-3-2012 by fulllotusqigong because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by fedeykin
reply to post by fulllotusqigong
Qi Gong is not something you can master in 10 minutes, or in 10 hours or in 10 months.
If these technical reports on scientific experiments are too dry and dull for you, perhaps some stories about Yan Xin and these Qinghua University scientists will be more interesting and show other sides of these things. Professor Li Shengping, one of the scientists taking part in these experiments for changing the molecular structure of liquids, told this story. He said this was the first time Yan Xin took part in scientific research, and he was in a very good mood. As soon as he came into the room, he quietly started radiating his energy. At the start of the experiment, the experimenters wanted to turn off the light, but an inexplicable thing happened. No matter how many times everybody tried to turn off the electric switches, the light kept shining. They could not perform the experiment until they turned off the light, so they kept trying, with no success. just as they were about to give up, Yan Xin said, "This should be no problem." He touched the power switch, and suddenly all the lights went out! As Professor Li Shengping said, "This little performance of Yan Xin's reminded us all of the fact that he could heal a person with a compound fracture of the shoulder blade in twenty minutes." After this, a lively atmosphere prevailed in the laboratory. Everyone could feel that the day's experiment might bring more results than expected. As it turned out, their first experiment was a success. The Chinese researchers did not rest on their laurels after they succeeded in using EHF (or chi) to change the molecular structure of water. They proceeded further, and for their next experimental subject they took a cell of an organism. The result was that Yan Xin's psychic ability changed the molecular arrangement of the cell membrane. If we carry this further, would it not be possible to experiment on those most mysterious cells, the DNA cells that carry the genetic code? The molecular structure of DNA is extremely complex, and the growth and decay, birth and death of proteins are all controlled by DNA. For this reason, our life, health, or sicknesses are all connected with DNA. This is true in particular for hereditary diseases. DNA and RNA tests make use of ultraviolet spectrometers, because DNA and RNA have distinctive ultraviolet absorption bands in their spectra, called the characteristic bands. These are crucial for identifying DNA and RNA from the band structure of the spectra, in the same way that the fingerprints of people are unique and can be used for identification. The researchers took DNA from a calf thymus and RNA from yeast as the objects of their experiment. They used a high-resolution ultraviolet spectrometer for measurement, and they had Yan Xin send his energy to them for fifteen minutes. They observed that the ultraviolet absorption spectrum of the DNA solution had indeed changed, meaning the DNA molecular structure had changed as well. However, when the news of this result spread to a physics authority in Qinghua University (who requested anonymity), he did not believe it. He wished to design his own experiment, and only if that succeeded would he accept the result. Six years earlier, he had brought with him from America something called artificial liquid crystal (MBBA), an extremely stable material. It had never registered any changes. He wanted to test this MBBA. The experimental samples were in the university lab, and they drove seven kilometers to the outskirts of town for the experiment. Then, after sending his energy for only five minutes, Yan Xin said he was done. The authority shook his head in disagreement, saying it was impossible. But when they went back and tested it on their old reliable instrument, the result was there, and it couldn't be denied! At this point, the authority, wittingly or unwittingly, asked Yan Xin, "The MBBA we tested out there changed, but the MBBA refrigerated in the other room won't have been affected, will it?" Yan Xin said, "It might have been." The authority was a little worried on hearing this, and he immediately went into the other room and got the other MBBA sample out of the refrigerator to test it. In twenty minutes, he found that it had been changed as well. This MBBA was an important item for the authority, one he had imported from the U.S. He was quite upset, but some others around him were teasing him about the "great loss." Yan Xin didn't say anything, he just stood there smiling. Eight days later, the MBBA returned to its original state. Some said that such a series of conversions is something modern science is unable to achieve! The Chinese scientists became bolder and bolder in their experiments with EHF. Now they dared to take on an investigation in chemistry.
Could EHF change hydrogen and carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide? According to the principles of chemistry, this reaction requires an air pressure of about 30 atmospheres and a temperature as high as 300 degrees Celsius, as well as the addition of a catalyst. This is a task of a high degree of difficulty. When Yan Xin heard of this, it made him furrow his brow too! At the start of the experiment, the hydrogen and carbon monoxide were put in a glass container (the pressure was only one atmosphere, and room temperature was 13 degrees Celsius). Yan Xin started emitting his energy, and the container started making a slight noise, as if about to break. Then they replaced it with one of steel, able to withstand high temperatures and a pressure of 250 atmospheres. Again Yan Xin sent out his chi, and the hydrogen and carbon monoxide in the container actually did change to carbon dioxide. (It was a little more concentrated than the carbon dioxide naturally occurring in air.) The Qinghua University researchers hardly dared to believe this incredible result. A little bit of psychic ability can take the place of tens of atmospheres and hundreds of degrees of heat! Another experiment was to bombard atomic nuclei. Who would think of it? Some say that Yan Xin bends science; here he was bending an atomic nucleus. Professors Lu Zuyin, Zhang Tianbao, Wang Donghai, and Zhu Runsheng of the Chinese Academy of Sciences' High Energy Physics Institute did a test of the effects of Yan Xin's energy on the decay rate of americium 241. Some asked why they would want to do these tests on atomic nuclei. Their reply was, "Now that we have succeeded in doing a series of experiments with EF IF on the molecular level, we want to move on to explore on a more fundamental level of matter - the nucleus." The idea of observing whether or not Yan Xin's EHF powers could influence this hard-to-change property - the decay rate of radioactive atoms - is very appealing. Every radioactive element has its own characteristic decay rate, determined by the interactions in the atomic nucleus. It is generally not affected by any physical or chemical influences from the surrounding environment. At the outset, they had two samples of americium 241, one to serve as a target of the chi gong energy, the other as a control for purposes of comparison. Each time, Yan Xin sent energy to the target for twenty minutes. These experiments were done six times over a period of half a year, starting in September 1987. Yan Xin sent his energy out a total of forty times. Every time, the experimenters registered a significant effect. Because it is known that radioactive decay is not affected by physical or chemical effects, there were no outside causes that could have resulted in changing the decay rate. But on one occasion, the decay rate changed significantly while Yan Xin was sending energy from 2,000 kilometers away. They had to conclude that the results were stronger at a far distance. The Chinese researchers became bolder and bolder, or, to put it another way, they became more and more active in testing psychic ability at a distance. After they completed their 2,000-kilometer test with americium 241, they turned to the idea of a new 10,000-kilometer test with americium 241. This idea was based on Yan Xin's trip to the U.S. Using the opportunity of Yan Xin's presence in the U.S. in 1990, Professor Lu Zuyin and Yan Xin agreed to schedule a time that year for Yan Xin to try to send his energy from the U.S. to Beijing, aimed at a sample of americium 241, to see whether he could have an effect on it from 10,000 kilometers away. In Beijing, four scientists with the High Energy Physics Institute - Lu Zuyin, Zhu Runsheng, Ren Guoxiao, and Hu Kuanghu - made the preparations for the experiment and waited for Yan Xin to make a long-distance telephone call from the opposite side of the Pacific Ocean to confirm a time for the experiment. Simple logic tells us that, if sending energy from seven kilometers works (this was the distance in Yan Xin's first long-distance experiment in mainland China), then it could also be possible from 2,000 kilometers; and if an effect exists at 2,000 kilometers then it also could exist at 10,000 kilometers. To go farther, such as sending energy from the earth to the moon, is a problem for future researchers, and there is no evidence to make any conclusions on this. As the researchers in Beijing were waiting, the telephone rang, bringing news of the schedule for the experiment. It was decided that Yan Xin would send his energy to the americium 241 on December 9, 1990, from 2:00 to 5:00 P.m. Beijing time.