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Originally posted by jiggerj
This universe had a beginning and it will have an end.
Why should whatever created this universe be immune from such cycles?
Originally posted by Rocketman7
reply to post by smithjustinb
matter, the actual stuff of the universe, is made up of quantum foam. Little bubbles in a superconductive superfluid with perfectly elastic properties.
So you have tiny foam bubbles that are Plank length in diameter, and they are all trying to expand into the vacuum of space at the same time. The universe is expanding. So then these bubbles combine to make larger bubbles until you get an atomic nucleus. Now depending on the state that nucleus is in, such as is it resisting expansion because it is a bubble under heavy pressure? You see each atom, exists in a slot. The periodic table of elements. Its atomic weight.
Originally posted by ecossiepossie
No one knows because matter does not exsisst.Although you can pick up an apple or bump your head on a wall..Everything we peceive includeing us is made up of atoms.What we remefer to as mattter. Atoms are full of enmpty space.But also many many more weird things electrons qarks protons. An all off thease are made of .teeeeny weeeny vibrarin waves of pure energy some sorte of low volrage electricity is my besrt geuse.An all of this atuff is moveing at or nearr the speed of light.So when your eyes see an airfan turned of .Youd happily put your fingerthrough the gaps beetwwen ther baldes as you know there in mostly empty space.If the fan was turned on an the fan whirling about theres no way youd place your finger into the mostly empty space.Things that feel solid an real to us hust move an vibrate an an incredible speed.They apear as solid to our own vibrating stuff.
Originally posted by timerty
Matter is the slowed down form of light energy. It is vibrating so slowly therefore it is dense and it can push against other slowed down matter. Perhaps that is just the way it is.
Makes as much sence as enything Ive heard.They say anything that has size bends matter. the more tiny Something has its immune from gravity or it has versy little effect on it .So tiny things are impervious to gravity an can laugh at it with immpunnity.
Originally posted by intrptr
In here at 3:50:
Thats one way of looking at it.
I like to think of scale. Suns are a lot bigger than us and have longer life spans. Their lifetime is longer. We are smaller and live a shorter life span. The ant is even smaller, has even shorter life span and more condensed energy. You can step on an ant and it might survive. On our scale it can pick up a 400 lb. rock and run 30 mph with it. An atom is even smaller. The bonds that keep it together are even stronger. It moves even faster. The distance between atoms is comparable to the distance between suns on our scale. If you could stand on an electron in orbit around its sun (nucleus) the night sky would be filled with atoms (other suns) at about the same distance as they are in the night sky. Valence bonds are like gravity. It is all a matter of scale. That could lead to a further unification of some laws could it not? That the weak and strong force as applied to atoms is akin to the force of gravity of suns and planets? Just a matter of scale?
This is a dumb theory I have had forever with no proof and I am not theoretical scientist so someone tell me why its stupid.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by ecossiepossie
No one knows because matter does not exsisst.Although you can pick up an apple or bump your head on a wall..Everything we peceive includeing us is made up of atoms.What we remefer to as mattter. Atoms are full of enmpty space.But also many many more weird things electrons qarks protons. An all off thease are made of .teeeeny weeeny vibrarin waves of pure energy some sorte of low volrage electricity is my besrt geuse.An all of this atuff is moveing at or nearr the speed of light.So when your eyes see an airfan turned of .Youd happily put your fingerthrough the gaps beetwwen ther baldes as you know there in mostly empty space.If the fan was turned on an the fan whirling about theres no way youd place your finger into the mostly empty space.Things that feel solid an real to us hust move an vibrate an an incredible speed.They apear as solid to our own vibrating stuff.
Vibrations of what? Quantum foam made up of what? 1d strings of what? Massive clumps of what? Everyone seems to be missing the point of my inquiry.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by jiggerj
This universe had a beginning and it will have an end.
Why should whatever created this universe be immune from such cycles?
Energy is neither created nor destroyed.
Originally posted by Soulece
Originally posted by rwfresh
reply to post by intrptr
It's not dumb. It's obvious! Just remember though.. it's all relative here inside the reflection of a hologram hahaha
if we're in a hologram how do we feel? holograms are computer generated to simulate. But a simulator cannot portray the difnitive answer such as the pain from breaking a bone. It will always be missing an element when comparing it to reality. Reality and hologram are two different things. If it is a hologram, then whatever is making the hologram is reality.edit on 29-3-2012 by Soulece because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by jiggerj
But did you say a state of absolute nothing cannot exist?
does this allow you to believe that, if absolute nothing exists ( wherever the universe is existing) the natural progression/state/action/activity/event/ is for an incomprehensible amount of energy and force and orchestration from the microest quantom level to the macroest galactic level to come into existence,, and exist,,, this is normal,, this is what should happen given the "conditions",, this happens "on its own",, yet " none of it is in control",,,,
You make it sound like this universe and everything in it had to have been planned, with some type of intelligence in control. All we have to do is look around us to see the randomness of it all. One day the ocean is calm, the next day it has ten foot waves, the next day a tsunami... Though we can now understand what causes such conditions it by no means implies that someone is in control of it. Does someone deliberately manipulate the wind? Lightning? Volcanoes? Why would it be any different for the creation of the universe?
Originally posted by smithjustinb
That's all well and good, and I don't disagree, but it STILL does not answer my question. What are the bubbles? I'm not asking what they look like, or how they behave, or what their mass is. I'm asking "what are they?"