Our Entire Space Program Is A Hoax And A Massive Deception

Originally posted by blocula
That low gravity simulator,operational since 1966,is the one we know about,because its the one we were allowed to know about.With multiple billions of dollars to work with, nasa and the american military surely could have developed and employed a top secret zero gravity simulation chamber that we'll probably never know about,because they'll never tell us and surely they have developed secret technologies through the years on a regular basis,that are at least 20 years ahead of what tptb tell the mainstream public about...

There is no anti-gravity “chamber” as that would eliminate the need for rockets, or even aircraft for that matter. The KC-135 he is referring too is an aircraft that flies a parabolic fligth path, like this:

Here is how it works:

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I don't know why I keep feeding this but......one never knows who may stumble into a thread, and read this kind of nonsense...so it cannot be left unchallenged:

I have heard that stanley kubrick was silenced and eliminated ....

Rubbish.

Here, for ALL to view (again) because it's important for any readers who "happen by"..... just one example video of definitive proof of the Apollo lunar missions, and the EVAs. From Apollo 15...(first Apollo mission to include the Lunar Rover, or 'LRV').

Pay particular note to the narration, and the reference to George Lucas, and 'Star Wars' (made in the late 1970s...WELL after Apollo ended)...and how not even HE could have "faked" this sort of footage:



For ALL of you (few) "doubters".....please try to pay attention, and take the time, and make the effort, to learn!!!!

Proud Bird, Choos, Defcon5.......Imagine yourselves in a space ship about to launch from earth.

You have officially left the planet and are about 150 thousand miles away from the moon. Just chugging along...

What are the chances that the Apollo rocket might collide with space debris? Would this create fear, knowing that at any second your ship could explode? Would there be a lot of risk involved traveling from Earth to the Moon?

Apollo 13 had to cancel the mission and turn back, and the Challenger blew up with a teacher inside.

What if the whole time they were empty? If a ship can explode like the Challenger did, would they risk sending up humans like that?

Its such a big hoax i'm actually surprised im arguing on a conspiracy theory website about it. Whats up with Buzz Aldrin seeing a UFO during Apollo 11??? Talk about overkill, we get it....you went to SPACE!


Its funnier when you know their not really on the moon.

Originally posted by holywar666
Apollo 13 had to cancel the mission and turn back

So you think they just stopped and turned back..

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WAIT a minute....let's keep some science in here, OK??:

You have officially left the planet and are about 150 million miles away from the moon. Just chugging along...

So....."150 millions miles away"....OK...NOW, what is your point??

What are the chances that the Apollo rocket might collide with space debris?

FAR, FAR, FAR less chance than the ISS, or the Space Shuttles (when they flew)....because there is FAR, FAR, FAR more "space debris" here near the Earth, in our vicinity, then out there.....between the Earth and the Moon......

Would this create fear, knowing that at any second your ship could explode?

NO.

Next "question"?

Would there be a lot of risk involved traveling from Earth to the Moon?

YES.

Next "question"? (**)

Apollo 13 had to cancel the mission and turn back......

Did you ever care to learn about the reason for the Apollo 13 accident? It is well documented.

And, as to "turn back".....this involves a WHOLE LOT OF EXPLAINING.....

........for A13, they had TWO options.....the "free return trajectory" (which used the "course" they were already on, and then use the gravity of the Moon to do a partial orbit, and then "free return" back towards the Earth, for eventual re-entry....

OR.....to use the CSM main engine to alter their trajectory, before going all the way to the Moon....to essentially alter their orbit by using thrust from the CSM to change their orbit, and define a changed trajectory to eventually aim for re-entry.

As it turned out, in the case of Apollo 13.....the decision to NOT fire the CSM main engine was a good one....something they only realized after-the-fact.

The explosion in the CSM module that caused the A13 crisis DAMAGED the CSM's engine nozzle.....to the point that IF they had fired that engine?? They would have been killed.

They did NOT know this.....but, the people in Mission Control said, since they were not sure, it was MORE SAFE to take the free-return option.....

(THIS< BTW, is ALL in the history books....IF ONLY people would bother to read, research, and understand it...).

What are the chances that the Apollo rocket might collide with space debris? Would this create fear, knowing that at any second your ship could explode? Would there be a lot of risk involved traveling from Earth to the Moon? [

Again.,...minimal, and no.

....... and the Challenger blew up with a teacher inside.

Really??? I mean.....we suddenly jump from the so-called "Moon landing hoax" of the Apollo era, to the Challenger tragedy of 1986?????

I am about to pull out my "Troll Spray".....(I am so close....I am trying hard not to.....)........

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Space Debris! That is my point! What are the chances of their craft exploding or hitting something mid-flight? How do they know these risks? Would this not be scary to think about? A quarter million miles there and a quarter million miles back with no chance of error.......

The risk of death is too high for NASA to send any humans into "space". Let alone play golf and throw hammers on the moon.

Originally posted by spoor

So you think they just stopped and turned back..

No, i dont think anyone was in it to begin with. Its a hoax, just like the exploding Challenger with the young teacher. Its all entertainment that stirs emotion.....

Lets talk about Buzz Aldrin seeing a UFO. Explain this.....

Originally posted by holywar666
What are the chances of their craft exploding or hitting something mid-flight?

Less than getting killed driving in a car...

The risk of death is too high for NASA to send any humans into "space".

So according to you governments should ban cars as the risk of death is too high.... remember 369,629 people died on America's roads between 2001 and 2009!

Originally posted by spoor

Less than getting killed driving in a car...

How can the chances of hitting debris in space be measured with getting killed driving a car?? The number of people who have traveled between the Earth and Moon is vastly smaller than the number of people out driving every day.

Provide the link from where you got that info. Sounds like a horrible comparison

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Space Debris! That is my point!

SEE my detailed response, above.

You seem to have a LOT to learn, my man...(or...my 'sentient entity, gender of your choice')........

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This is meaningless:

How can the chances of hitting debris in space be measured with getting killed driving a car??

The comparisons are not even close, in probabilities.......when one considers THREE-dimensional, and not jsut TWO-dimensional realities.

Originally posted by holywar666
Proud Bird, Choos, Defcon5.......Imagine yourselves in a space ship about to launch from earth.

You have officially left the planet and are about 150 million miles away from the moon. Just chugging along...

What are the chances that the Apollo rocket might collide with space debris? Would this create fear, knowing that at any second your ship could explode? Would there be a lot of risk involved traveling from Earth to the Moon?

Apollo 13 had to cancel the mission and turn back, and the Challenger blew up with a teacher inside.

What if the whole time they were empty? If a ship can explode like the Challenger did, would they risk sending up humans like that?

Its such a big hoax i'm actually surprised im arguing on a conspiracy theory website about it. Whats up with Buzz Aldrin seeing a UFO during Apollo 11??? Talk about overkill, we get it....you went to SPACE!

Chances of collisions with space debris? One probably has a greater chance colliding with debris in low earth orbit, comments like this shows a lack of understanding how vast space is. Point in case, 150 million miles away from the moon puts you nearly 3 times the distance Mars would come to the moon, right in the heart of the Main Asteroid belt, which BTW many many spacecraft have traversed without one single collision. In fact Cassini spacecraft flew through the rings of Saturn, without colliding with any of the billions of objects in the ring system.

The space between the earth and moon is a complete void, yeah you hear of an occasional NEO cruising by and rarely within a lunar distance but consider the 3 dimensional space sphere that encompasses, one has better odds of winning the lottery than a collision.

Challenger disaster is completely unrelated to any collision.

Apollo 13 couldn't turn back, it had to orbit the moon to change its trajectory back to earth, education of what is spewed in this post is clearly evident we have a pedestrian interest party here talking from pure appeal to emotion and ignorance, take your pick.

Clearly illustrated by how a comment is phrased,

you went to SPACE!

, suggests someone not native American, and is trying to deal with some kind of inferiority complex in typical fashion we see all too much in these threads, instead of critical analysis of evidence presented. I never knew that a 'National Pride' is still a thing to be bruised these days. To me its sort of an adolescent emotion.

The only space collisions I'm aware of were the early attempts of to reach the moon with Soviet Lunas, and American Rangers, crashing on the moon. Others would be intentional crashes on the moon like Chang'e 1, and many other lunar orbiters. Also planetary space probes like Galileo was intentionally crashed into Jupiter once the mission concluded. There are other intentional crashes. Several 3rd stage rocket boosters have crashed on the moon including the Apollo 13 upper stage, which got there before the command/lander assembly.

Not one space probe hit anything en-route to a destination ever. Space is vast.

At NASA Glenn Research Center they have one of the world's largest zero G drop tanks. The Zero G Facility provides a near weightless or microgravity environment for 5.18 seconds as the experiment vehicle free falls, in a vacuum, for 432 ft. The energy it takes to operate the chamber comes from the facility's own power plant, because it consumes as much power as the city of Cleveland uses, so they can't tap into the local power grid, Cleveland would black out. I got an escorted tour of the facility in the early 90's when it was the Lewis Research Center, but not when it was powered up, and that is when the power requirements were explained to me. I don't believe they ever power it up during business hours.

Its obvious no facility can simulate microgravity for fake filming, you see the duration and size is ridiculous to consider any such 'secret' facility anywhere to film fake moon landing footage, physically impossible.

Microgravity drop tank.

NASA's Facility link.

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Point in case, 150 million miles away from the moon puts you nearly 3 times the distance Mars would come to the moon

Ah, you gave it away! (pretend to stomp feet)

I wanted (him;her) to figure it out for (his/her) self....(pretending to stomp feet....again...).....

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Now, THAT is news!!!!!!

WoW!!!!

Of course......achieving about 5 seconds of micro-gravity, here on the Earth's surface?

Compared to doing it on a jet.....where you get up to 35 seconds in a parabolic flight.....or??

Going into ORBIT, where it is....well......sustainable??

Which one is more 'priceless'??

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You should see the huge vacuum chamber tunnels leading to the drop tank facility, to achieve 5.18 seconds of microgravity, truly massive you need to be driven around to appreciate the size of the facility and power requirements.

Google Map of Zero G facility.

Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by DenyObfuscation

 

Telescopes dont really see anything,because without humans looking through them,what would there be to see? nothing,because when our eyes look into outer space,or look through telescopes into outer space,we are looking at an intentionally projected holographic illusion and especially when realizing that everything we see,hear,taste,touch and smell is taking place inside our brains and nowhere else, whoever or whatever is projecting this holographic illusion we call reality into our brains,obviously wants us to feel totally trapped, absolutely helpless,really small and very insignificant,with seemingly nowhere else for us to go...

How far do you take this perception is illusion and imagination is reality nonsense? What is an intentionally projected holographic illusion? Who projects it and how is this accomplished? Why do you concern yourself with anything depicted in pics of this illusion? You expect people to take you seriously when you suggest that Venusians tried to launch plasma missiles at Earth but aimed them in the wrong direction and then say it's all just an illusion?

This all sounds quite like a "Hoax and a massive deception".

Originally posted by Illustronic
You should see the huge vacuum chamber tunnels leading to the drop tank facility, to achieve 5.18 seconds of microgravity, truly massive you need to be driven around to appreciate the size of the facility and power requirements.

This is what I find so amusing, real science/engineering such as this is so much more interesting than silly conspiracy theories.

I put this on my list of places I would like to visit!

You should see the huge vacuum chamber tunnels leading to the drop tank facility, to achieve 5.18 seconds of microgravity, truly massive you need to be driven around to appreciate the size of the facility and power requirements.

Google Map of Zero G facility.

Can't wait....or.....yeah, guess I can...after all.......

Heh....I'll meet you in Vegas! (Pssst....don't tell anyone....)....

Ooooops...uh.oh.......

Originally posted by holywar666
What are the chances that the Apollo rocket might collide with space debris?

Very slim. There is very little debris up there compared to the amount of nothing.

Originally posted by holywar666
Would this create fear, knowing that at any second your ship could explode?

There were a lot more serious dangers then colliding with something. Equipment malfunction is the most prevalent in any environment where your completely dependent on life support.

Originally posted by holywar666
Would there be a lot of risk involved traveling from Earth to the Moon?

You bet there was, and there was no hope of rescue. Astronauts accepted this risk, knowing this full well.

Originally posted by holywar666
Apollo 13 had to cancel the mission and turn back, and the Challenger blew up with a teacher inside.

Apollo 13 didn't turn back, and continued around the moon on a normal return trajectory. They didn't have the fuel for a direct return. I'm not getting your point of bringing up the Challenger?

Originally posted by holywar666
If a ship can explode like the Challenger did, would they risk sending up humans like that?

cave diving is the 3rd most deadly sport on the planet, yet I've done it. People are willing to take risks to go places that no one else has ever gone. It's human nature to explore and be the first in a new place. Why climb Everest? Why dive into caves? Why fly? Why not sit at home rapped in bubble-wrap, wearing tin foil, and hard hat? If your that afraid to die, then you will never live.

Originally posted by holywar666
Whats up with Buzz Aldrin seeing a UFO during Apollo 11???

Astronauts used to see ufo's all the time. They even had a codename for them when talking to mission control.