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Our Entire Space Program Is A Hoax And A Massive Deception

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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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The publicized "prophecies" are not of Hopi origin, but rather are written by others with only a false or partial understanding of the Hopi. The actual Hopi 'prophecies' were a warning against militarism, and fit with their staunchly pacifist viewpoint.

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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Just as there are various versions of the Hopi creation mythology, there are various versions of the prophecy, reported by different authors at different times. Note; According to statements made by the Hopi themselves, none of the currently publicized "Hopi Prophecies" actually originate with the Hopi. The closest to the genuine beliefs of the Hopi themselves would be the statements made by Thomas Banacyca to the United Nations. In this version, the Hopi are warning against continued armament by the great nations, stating that it will lead to another world war.

The Hopi do not discuss their beliefs with outsiders.

all for selling books to the white man from white mans hands written down in white mans own ink for

there gain etc... fantasy sells..



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by denver22
The publicized "prophecies" are not of Hopi origin, but rather are written by others with only a false or partial understanding of the Hopi. The actual Hopi 'prophecies' were a warning against militarism, and fit with their staunchly pacifist viewpoint.

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The actual hopi prophecy was carved in stone,a long time ago > www.thedreammasters.org...

Hopi Prophecies > www.crystalinks.com...
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by denver22
The publicized "prophecies" are not of Hopi origin, but rather are written by others with only a false or partial understanding of the Hopi. The actual Hopi 'prophecies' were a warning against militarism, and fit with their staunchly pacifist viewpoint.

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The actual hopi prophecy was carved in stone,a long time ago > www.thedreammasters.org...
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yes i know bloc but the story has been changed around to suit book sellers and conspiracy nuts like icke

von daniken .etc.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:43 PM
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Living in our reality,is like watching a movie and being in the movie your watching,at the same time.A three dimensional projection of a holographic illusion...



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by denver22
The publicized "prophecies" are not of Hopi origin, but rather are written by others with only a false or partial understanding of the Hopi. The actual Hopi 'prophecies' were a warning against militarism, and fit with their staunchly pacifist viewpoint.

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The actual hopi prophecy was carved in stone,a long time ago > www.thedreammasters.org...

Hopi Prophecies > www.crystalinks.com...
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bloc in your link do you not notice that the author adds his own words and makes suggestions on the hopi prophecys .. all i see is conclusions and conjecture .



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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bloc did you say you have a photographic memory?



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
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Living in our reality,is like watching a movie and being in the movie your watching,at the same time.A three dimensional projection of a holographic illusion...



Not really, because when you die you die, you don't go to a waiting room with Betelgeuse, or pass time with sand worms.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Illustronic

Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by holywar666
 
Living in our reality,is like watching a movie and being in the movie your watching,at the same time.A three dimensional projection of a holographic illusion...



Not really, because when you die you die, you don't go to a waiting room with Betelgeuse, or pass time with sand worms.
When we die,our temporary physical bodies return to the stardust from where they came,but our souls live on and ascend into the fourth dimension...
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by choos

you realise what you are implying right?

the sun is a projection the moon and all the other planets have been projections since before man started looking up in the sky, galileo, hipparchus, ptolemy, copernicus etc. were all fooled by the ptb.

not just them, but every human and living creature on earth has been fooled by the ptb, by them radiating fake sun light and heat across the globe, controlling the tides relative to the holographic moon.


Why does this sound so crazy? Compared to :

The Sun is the star at the center of the Solar System. It is almost perfectly spherical and consists of hot plasma interwoven with magnetic fields


With a whole category dedicated to Aliens, you'd think more people would wonder if we are living in a false/experimental world run by more advanced beings.


It is in synchronous rotation with Earth, always showing the same face


They even call it a "natural satellite". So what sounds crazier, a floating hunk of mass or an advanced 3D projection?
Could humans have been fooled from the start? Is "God" or Evolution the answer to our past? What if its neither, and we are just creations stuck in an age old experiment? "They" seem to have a plan for us, we just cant see it or fathom it.
As proof of this thread, the idea of the sun and moon being fake doesnt seem to sit well with people. Is it fear? Or do you just 100% trust all those pictures/videos/scientists? For a conspiracy website, i think its time members start thinking "outside the box"



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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Thinking that our reality is an intentionally projected hologram, creating the illusion of our three dimensional material existence upon a world that is a fabrication,suspended beneath an artificial sun thats much closer and smaller than we are led to believe,is ridiculed and denied and though of as coming from the opinion of a lunatic fringe...

But everyone being led to believe that our existence and our entire physical reality suddenly burst out of an infinitely small point in space,around a millionth of an inch across called the big bang,is just casually accepted as fact with no real proof to back it up?

Thats because the above theory happens to agree with and fit into the currently enforced belief structure of those who rule and controls us...

And the first mentioned theory goes against the power and control of tptb and their currently enforced belief structure,because it implies that there exists advanced entities who might be able to sway the mainstream masses away from the iron fisted domination of tptb...


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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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......the opinion of a lunatic fringe...


Well, now you're finally getting it.

I'd suggest some serious consideration be given to seeking mental health help...sooner, rather than later.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by holywar666
 
Thinking that our world is an intentionally fabricated reality,beneath an artificial sun thats much closer and smaller than we are led to believe,is ridiculed and denied and though of as coming from the opinion of a lunatic fringe...

But everyone being led to believe that our existence and our entire physical reality suddenly burst out of an infinitely small point in space,around a millionth of an inch across called the big bang,is just casually accepted as fact with no real proof to back it up?

Thats because the above theory happens to agree with and fit into the currently enforced belief structure of those who rule and controls us...

And the first mentioned theory goes against the power and control of tptb and their currently enforced belief structure,because it implies that there exists advanced entities who might be able to sway the mainstream masses away from the iron fisted domination of tptb...


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Theres three major misconceptions about the big bang and you just used one of them.
The BBT is not about the origin of the universe. Rather, its primary focus is the development of the universe over time.
BBT does not imply that the universe was ever point-like.(this you seem to believe)

The origin of the universe was not an explosion of matter into already existing space.(this you infer by your statement)

BBT in its simplest form states "In the distant past, the universe was very dense and hot; since then it has expanded, becoming less dense and cooler." the expansion of the universe is completely self-contained meaning space is created in the process or the hard part for mere mortals to understand theres nothing outside the universe because it wasnt created yet. we know space is created through are observations of distant galaxies.This isnt theoretical and the big bang is currently the only model to explain our observations.

So when you said everything was created from a point in space thats not what it says.First the big bang wasnt an explosion at all bad name and it stuck really.The big bang is the expansion or stretching of space. It is not that things are flying out from a point.More like every object in the universe is separating from every other object in the universe do to space being created.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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Get over it, there is no space. There is no Uranus. No UFO's, no "One giant leap for mankind", no Big Bang Theory, no planets, no shooting stars etc etc. Look at how a green screen works on a small scale, could this not be used on a big scale? Technology we cant even imagine?

This would be a GREAT reason to fake the moon landings and create a billion dollar funded space program. To ensure the public NEVER finds out, and to have full control over everything that involves space. When was the last time you went into orbit? Will you ever? Or do you just have a telescope?


Originally posted by ProudBird
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......the opinion of a lunatic fringe...


Well, now you're finally getting it.

I'd suggest some serious consideration be given to seeking mental health help...sooner, rather than later.


Great contribution to the topic
You'd think such a lunatic thread would get no stars or flags....
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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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99.99999 percent of people who ever existed on earth,99.99999 of every person alive on earth right now and 99.99999 of everyone who ever will exist on earth,have lived and died,are going to live and die and will live and die without ever traveling up into outer space and without ever traveling down into the the oceans and those two greatest of mysterious mysteries are all around us all the time,yet we know almost nothing about them...

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posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by holywar666
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Get over it, there is no space. There is no Uranus. No UFO's, no "One giant leap for mankind", no Big Bang Theory, no planets, no shooting stars etc etc. Look at how a green screen works on a small scale, could this not be used on a big scale? Technology we cant even imagine?

This would be a GREAT reason to fake the moon landings and create a billion dollar funded space program. To ensure the public NEVER finds out, and to have full control over everything that involves space. When was the last time you went into orbit? Will you ever? Or do you just have a telescope?


Originally posted by ProudBird
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......the opinion of a lunatic fringe...


Well, now you're finally getting it.

I'd suggest some serious consideration be given to seeking mental health help...sooner, rather than later.


Great contribution to the topic
You'd think such a lunatic thread would get no stars or flags....
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so whos this faction that is creating this screen ...???

id so like to know..

have you proof of this claim???



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by holywar666
 
99.99999 percent of people who ever existed on earth,99.99999 of every person alive on earth right now and 99.99999 of everyone who ever will exist on earth,have lived and died,are going to live and die and will live and die without ever traveling up into outer space and without ever traveling down into the the oceans and those two greatest of mysterious mysteries are all around us all the time,yet we know almost nothing about them...

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are you on tcp?

bloc how do you make an asumption like that
you cannot go into the future, how can you claim that people will never go into space ever????????
or the oceans????



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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You'd think such a lunatic thread would get no stars or flags....


The sad thing really is....as of now the *count* is 45 flags. The majority of which are most likely due to the very first sentence in the Opening Post (an incorrect and invalid opinion, BTW....but, that doesn't stop a tiny minority of people from remaining deluded enough to still believe it).

And, tiny minority it is....just have a gander at total ATS membership numbers, and daily/weekly/monthly traffic.

But, as a species of sentient beings, humanity also is still (unfortunately) saddled with a good number of delusional people, everywhere. In open society.

And, tragically, these delusions are "mainstream" (to use a common term), not "fringe" (like "Moon landing hoax" belief idiocy).

The "mainstream" delusions I refer to, that are very, very wide-spread?

The "belief" that some texts complied many thousands of years ago, that were themselves only written from the memories and oral traditions handed down over earlier millennia that preceded.....that those nonsense claims from superstitious, unscientifically-minded slightly-beyond-stone-age peoples.....are somehow to be "worshiped" and sought after as "truths".

THAT is the tragedy of our species, at its current state of development.

This, is saddening. There are still many generations to go before we, as a people, out-grow that childish, simplistic mentality.......



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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Source for your "99.9999 percent" figure?

Yeah....thought not.

Utter twaddle. As usual.



posted on Apr, 15 2012 @ 06:09 PM
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How many people have gone down into the deepest trenches of the earths oceans? about 5? give or take a couple? and juat as amazing is the fact that only around 500 out of 7,000,000,000 people claimed to have gone into outer space,when actually,they were in low earth orbit,not outer space and those who claimed to have blasted off the surface of earth upon almost 400 foot tall rockets, flown to the moon,walked upon its surface and then flew back to earth and splashed down into the ocean,are,imo,high paid liars,just airplane pilots trained to look and act like astronauts,who most likely,never went anywhere out there at all...

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