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This confirms a point some others have made
Ever wonder why Neil Armstrong walks off camera to collect the Apollo 11 landing contingency sample? Read this from David Harland's book, "The First Men On The Moon";
“The contingency sample is in the pocket,” Armstrong informed Houston, to the relief of the scientists. In fact, they would have preferred the sample taken well away from Eagle because the exhaust plume had disturbed the fine material in the immediate vicinity and potentially contaminated that which remained. In addition, the oxidiser pressure had been relieved soon after landing by venting, and some of the nitrogen tetroxide might have coated the surface. But Armstrong had been told to remain close to the vehicle.
Harland, David M. (2006-10-01). The First Men on the Moon: The Story of Apollo 11 (Springer Praxis Books / Space Exploration).
So if scientists see Neil collect the rocks right there, they know what to expect contamination wise. They can't fake that, so he walks away, collects the contingency sample and now the contamination issue has been made ambiguous. The scientists can't expect anything when they examine the rocks on earth.
The other thing is Neil takes photos before collecting the rocks. The photos must include rocks that would appear regardless of Neil's collection. That is, they are phony pictures. If Armstrong collected the rocks first, the rocks would have STILL APPEARED in the photos. They were never picked up to begin with. This is the explanation for the funny order, photos before contingency sample collection.
Originally posted by SpaceStu
reply to post by Bodhi7
Reflectors were landed on the moon by the Russians. Finding hardware on the moon, or evidence of hardware does not necessarily mean one has found evidence for a human hand's having placed the hardware there.
I read today that Neil Armstrong witnessed the American signing of the 1967 outer space treaty. UNBELIEVABLE. THE RAT. Talk about theater. These guys are planting weapons in space, figuratively speaking of course, and Armstrong has the nerve to pretend like he is interested in this treaty which was supposed to safeguard space from twits just like him. It is hard to get any more cynical after reading that. That ditz is the biggest low life jerk on the planet, Armstrong is.
Believe us , we are flattered, but there is only one Patrick. BoosterBooster's aka Claudia's point is not that Armstrong pretended to collect the rock samples off screen. He was of course videoed. Claudia's point was that the specimen was not collected right next to the lander. Presumably, were the rocks collected right there, despite the rather "inert" status of N2, CO2 and H2O, the rock samples would have been EXPECTED TO BE CONTAMINATED with these substances. With the collection done somewhat away from the LM, all bets were off on the phony collection. That is not to say scientists may not have expected some contamination. But collecting the rocks right next to the lander , they would have expect WATER on the rocks and so forth. Claudia is better at this than I am. I'll give her the next crack. But the group here gets the general idea. How did I do Claudia ?
Presumably they did add the "right amount" of water to the rocks, if they thought that was needed. The point about the contingency sample has to do with collecting the sample right next to the lander. Should the rocks then be COVERED with water ? CO2 ? N2 ? Guesses anyone ?