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very difficult to prove He isn't.
Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by Akragon
You can't use the Bible to prove my claims as false.
The entire Bible is testimony to Him being who He is.
Suffer not the children to come to me....
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Iason321
What Jesus actually said, was that He was God,
That is a lie... and you know it...
Am I a liar too friend?
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by HeFrippedMeOff
The understanding is that there are more important things than the lust of the flesh and the vanity of materialism that so easily entangles our minds and hearts.
I care nothing for 'materialism'...I have two healthy adult children, and a husband and mother (widow) and my pets, and my garden and yard, and laughter, and peace of mind, and my own health. I am able to be alone contentedly....to sleep soundly, to argue for the acceptance and justice of all humankind (notwithstanding the ongoing assaults of certain "Christian" proselytizers)....the glorious beauty of this planet...creativity, curiosity, an energy to live life to its fullest. I am happy. I know myself. I know what life has offered me; and what the life to come will be.
I am content that when this body dies, all will be well for me.
I neither hasten it, nor fear it.
'Lust' has nothing to do with it. I have passed through menopause, and been successively educated (through academia and personal experience) into the 'human condition'....
'lust of the flesh'??? Like, eating, merriment, thought, rest, love, kindness, generosity, contribution?
whatever...nothing wrong with it. The Divine did not put us here to suffer excruciating pain (unless that is what we've earned by karma and have agreed to before this life-birth)...but to learn the joys of earthly existence, connect it to the Divine that we are all a part of, and rejoice, day by day....moment by moment....that we had this opportunity. We will weep, and suffer, yes. But we will also experience ecstatic joy, and priceless experiences.
But you go ahead with your fatalistic gloom. I'll go my way, thanks.
edit on 12-4-2012 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)
Have I railed against the other 6
or do you rail against those who have not all 7?
Because I don't speak in tongues does that mean I am inadequate?
Is the ear not important because it is not the foot or the nose because it is not the hand?
Have we not all been given a measure of faith?
Are we not all parts working in conjunction praying and edifying one another in the areas where one may lack?
Perhaps we should just stop with the generalities altogether.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by Akragon
No, it most definitely is not, and I can cite numerous examples if need be.
Perfect... show me and everyone else reading where he said Specifically
I AM GOD...
Prepare for failure as well...
Show me where He said "I love babies."
Suffer not the children to come to me....
Ahhh, so you infer He also loves babies from that verse where He doesn't specifically say He loves them also?
Thanks for proving my point.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Akragon
Suffer not the children to come to me....
Wait, friend. He said "suffer the little children to come to me"....
but I know that's what you meant.
He said to let the kids approach him....even if the adults thought it was a bad idea.
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Iason321
What Jesus actually said, was that He was God,
That is a lie... and you know it...
Am I a liar too friend?
I did not say that...
Perhaps you just do not see what i do...
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by HeFrippedMeOff
Of course Paul was not talking about the GWT since that is a fictionalized version of judgment in Revelation, not written by Paul, and not something recognized by Paul. Meaning, Paul makes no mention of it, or quote from it.
Paul in Romans 14 makes mention that we will appear before the judgment seat of Christ (not the GWToJ).
I have faith the Father will forgive her foolishness,
I don't have as much faith that other humans won't regard her foolishness for wisdom,
which is where I and others here step in.
That is false logic...
He denied being God... And as i've stated... How does Your God.... have a God....
Makes no sense
You can't use the Bible to prove my claims as false.
Oh, and apparently it is your business though?
Mrs. Oh so wise woman, who makes posts every day telling people there faith is false, and Jesus is not God.