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Authentic Alien Artifact at National Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas.

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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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The newly opened National Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas.
A museum that is associated with the Smithsonian Institution.

They have one item listed as "Authentic Alien Artifact".
From a UFO crash, Jan 29, 1986 in Dalnegorsk in the Soviet Union.




These so-called alien artifacts come from an incident known as the Russian Roswell.
On Jan. 29, 1986, an unusual-looking reddish sphere streaked across the sky over the Soviet Union mining town of Dalnegorsk and crashed into Mount Izvestkovaya, also referred to as Height 611.

"Valeri Dvuzhilini of the Academy of Sciences was first to arrive on the scene two days later. He collected samples of strange metallic mesh scattered at the site, and samples of rocks and vegetation which had been scorched in the crash," said Las Vegas KLAS-TV news reporter George Knapp.


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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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Creepy thing...
On the linked huff page the little green blow up alien in the last picture displayed has a littlw sign that says:
" we will soon be here" - someone know something?


hmm....I thought they already were?


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edit on 27-3-2012 by Rosha because: typo



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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they are here iam from canada



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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And ahh, how about a little of your opinion on it?

Absurd, and aimed at those who crave it. Alien? Well, maybe if it is a piece of a meteor or something. But alien as if "alien"....nah, don' t think so. Use your heads for crying out loud.

If it's "alien" they way most around here would fantasize that it is, just tell me how it is "Authentic" the 100-200 worldwide labs that authenticated it (I mean, it would be a big deal, right?), and how it came to end up in a go nowhere, dustbowl waste of a museum in the middle of a bunch of dirt farmers.

There is not a museum in the world that would use the word "authentic" on something like this without the things that would go along with it. What you are talking about is not a museum, it is a roadside attraction ran by morons, curated by morons, and kept in business based on ignorance.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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I thought we would get to see a picture of the "artifact" but maybe not?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by MainLineThis
reply to post by tomten
 


And ahh, how about a little of your opinion on it?

Absurd, and aimed at those who crave it. Alien? Well, maybe if it is a piece of a meteor or something. But alien as if "alien"....nah, don' t think so. Use your heads for crying out loud.

If it's "alien" they way most around here would fantasize that it is, just tell me how it is "Authentic" the 100-200 worldwide labs that authenticated it (I mean, it would be a big deal, right?), and how it came to end up in a go nowhere, dustbowl waste of a museum in the middle of a bunch of dirt farmers.

There is not a museum in the world that would use the word "authentic" on something like this without the things that would go along with it. What you are talking about is not a museum, it is a roadside attraction ran by morons, curated by morons, and kept in business based on ignorance.


Well..
For me 3 academic centers, and 11 institutions, confirming it.
Is proof enough.


According to the exhibit's description, scientific tests on the UFO materials revealed bizarre behavior:
"Three Soviet academic centers and 11 research institutes analyzed the objects from this UFO crash.
The distance between atoms is different from ordinary iron. Radar cannot be reflected from the material.

Elements in the material may disappear and new ones appear after heating. One piece disappeared completely in front of four witnesses. The core of the material is composed of a substance with anti-gravitational properties."



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr
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I thought we would get to see a picture of the "artifact" but maybe not?


It's inside the vial, at the fist post.


Knapp, pictured below right, was given samples of the debris, including very small perfectly round and glassy spheres, which had also been found at other crash sites. Those materials are being unveiled by the National Atomic Testing Museum.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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so something crashed in soviet Russia

it was confirmed alien

yet ended in an american museum??

something dosent add up guys.if it was alien it would have vanished

simple thinking



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 09:07 AM
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Well..
For me 3 academic centers, and 11 institutions, confirming it.
Is proof enough.


It pains me to think this would be enough for anybody, but alas, it is. Please take a SERIOUS look at the 3 academic centers, their WORLDWIDE PEER REVIEWED analysis from MAJOR world institutions....you know what, never mind. Like I said, stories like this are aimed at people like you who don't understand how this stuff works, or will make excuses on why this particular "case" didn't work this way...and excuse for you to jump to the LEAST LIKELY conclusions....all the while bringing down the perceived IQ of the rest of us.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by MainLineThis
reply to post by tomten
 



Well..
For me 3 academic centers, and 11 institutions, confirming it.
Is proof enough.


It pains me to think this would be enough for anybody, but alas, it is. Please take a SERIOUS look at the 3 academic centers, their WORLDWIDE PEER REVIEWED analysis from MAJOR world institutions....you know what, never mind. Like I said, stories like this are aimed at people like you who don't understand how this stuff works, or will make excuses on why this particular "case" didn't work this way...and excuse for you to jump to the LEAST LIKELY conclusions....all the while bringing down the perceived IQ of the rest of us.


How many tests do you need?
Do you need 25 ? 50 ? 100 ?
Wich institution do you want to do the tests?

F.Y.I. My IQ is 130.
What's yours?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by tomten


Well..
For me 3 academic centers, and 11 institutions, confirming it.
Is proof enough.



Can you name them?

If so, can you link to any of their "results"?

Can you find any reference to the artifacts' source, Valeri Dvuzhilini, in any context other than this particular story?

Has the Smithsonian made any official statements regarding the fragments' alleged extra-terrestrial origin?


You might want to research these claims a bit before accepting the story at face value.



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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Sounds to me like they took a part of whatever crashed and put it on display.

It could really be "alien" because the fireball seen could have been a meteor. I don't really see anywhere where they claim it was manufactured or part of a spaceship.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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The museum does have an affiliation with Smithsonian as it clams - see www.affiliations.si.edu... - and certainly appears to be more than a 'roadside attraction run by morons'.

The image supplied by the Huffington Post article does appear to show a sign saying 'Authentic Alien Artefact' as well.

Assuming the image is actually of the exhibit in question there does seem to some substance to this story ( regardless of what the museum means by 'authentic' and 'alien' or the context of this particular exhibit).

Would be nice if people addressed the facts rather than their own supposition of what the facts are.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by thesearchfortruth
It could really be "alien" because the fireball seen could have been a meteor. I don't really see anywhere where they claim it was manufactured or part of a spaceship.


Precisely. They are using loaded-language to get the visitors excited, to get people like us talking. All alien means is "not of this earth"; it does not mean the object belonged to an alien lifeform or that it was in any way manufactured. It is pieces of a meteor, nothing more.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Much info on this subject is found in an ATS thread, including pics of debris, the entities that analysed it and their findings.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Great find! I found the following quote interesting.



The Committee on meteorites from Moscow, ruled out the meteorite hypothesis twenty years ago, after analyzing the samples and witnesses.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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Some ATS members kill me. You're attacking the OP as if he placed that "authentic alien artifact" in the museum himself. All he did was pass on the information to us. I'm not saying I believe this is captured Russian alien artifacts but Please People, lay off. Get a grip. Get a life! You think people would be interested in why a museum with close ties to Area 51 and the NTS would place something like that in its museum. Instead of yelling at the OP for declaring its authentic, yell at the museum. Perhaps shame on him for actually believing its authentic but cursing each other out over IQ's (especially with typos in how high your IQ is...funny actually)...whatever.

ATS members like this are the reason no one posts on here anymore. That this site is no longer courteous or friendly anymore. When you ATS points read more in the negative than positive that means no one really wants to hear from you. Take a hint.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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draknoir2,

Good questions.

I've been trying to collect information on the 1986 Dalnegorsk event, using Google search in Russian and Google translate.

It turns out that Dvuzhilni was a humble Dalnegorsk school teacher until 1986. Since then he's worked as a self-employed 'ufologist', catering for the local demand for UFO tourism that has followed the closure of the highly polluting local lead smelters.

False claims about .Dvuzhilni's scientific status have helped prevent US scientists taking the Dalnegorsk work seriously. I guess that's why Peter Sturrock did not include it in his study.

Yet much serious scientific work has been done on the Dalnegorsk material, starting with studies at the Tomsk Polytechnical University under V.N.Salnikov. They conducted an on site survey in 1988, geophysical studies by V. Skavinsky. They published a 248 page study. That sparked off research at the University of Vladivostok, the Paton Institute at Kiev and many other academic centres. Research has continued, so the total of 14 may be correct.

I've been trying to get hold of the TPU study, my background as a geochemist would be useful in interpreting their conclusions. But no response from Moscow so far. I'd appreciate help from anyone who knows more about the Dalnegorsk work.

It would be great if anyone at the Smithsonian would take an interest. But I'm not sure anyone there is qualified to undertake studies of this kind.

Cheers.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Its an Area 51 exhibit.
Of course they would find something they could show that wouldn't actually be giving up any secrets. Did any one really think they would show any real evidence of Alien Tech. Of course not. The sign probably isn't false because the samples could be of something 'alien'. As in not from earth.

Wording the sign just right brings in all the loonies who think "hey, maybe they are showing some real alien stuff."
Yeah right. Its all just a clever 'marketing' trick to get the dumbies into the exhibit.

Just my quick take on the whole thing.

TXML




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