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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by SavedOne
So you think these "facts" justify what Zimmerman did?
I didn't say that Zimmerman was justified. I said that people are jumping to conclusions saying that he wasn't. People are jumping to the conclusion that he is a racist murderer. But the only FACT we know is that we are not getting the facts. We are getting a pile of spin from the media and we are getting politicians jumping on the political correctness bandwagon and we are getting other facts that don't fit into their spin - ignored. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. We were not there. And we can't trust the news.
How about the fact that Zimmerman was the instigator in this situation?
That's NOT a fact. That's the media spin.
Originally posted by Obl1vion
reply to post by sean
Yet this is the point... regardless of what that Idiot, Zimmerman, said or thought, he was doing, was indisposed by action not ours, he got his butt kicked from what I can decifer, and killed the kid for it, but by law, he was in protected, and even if he was hateful, he may have been right, I dont care to be frank.. Yet it does not instill nor allow bounties and death warrants in a civilized culture....
Once what the hell was travon, doing in a hoody in the shadows making this wyap earp wanting to chase him?
if this guy had a clean slate maybe I would say foul...
Just a sad story...
I am also saddened on how blacks are responding to it, Their leaders I should say in 2012, they should not have to have them...
Yet ole Trayvon, will fill those tithe trays up Nation wide...
i agree with you completely...guess it didn't take much to understand the broad circumstances of this situation.
Originally posted by Kylearan
reply to post by FlyersFan
There is also the account from a woman who saw the fight and says nothing like that slamming the head and punch happened. But if it did, Martin had the right to defend himself. He was the one being followed. As for it being race based. All we have to hear is the tape on the night and the other tapes. On the tape of Zimmerman saying "They always get away." and "F-ing Coons". So there is no question about the race issue here.
However there is some new evidence that surfaced today that you didn't include or hear about yet in your statement. The detective investigating Zimmerman's shooting says he thought Zimmerman didn't tell the truth about how it went down. He wanted a manslaughter charge but they said it wasn't enough evidence.
So we have a tape where the cops tell him he shouldn't follow the kid, Zimmerman saying, "They always get away." and the chief investigator not believing this. Oh and the witness that says they heard Treyvon Martin screaming for help. Well that doesn't look too good for Zimmerman. I don't think anyone jumped to conclusions about race after they heard the racial slur. Now as they look into Zimmerman's past they find that he has had domestic violence claims made against him. Zimmerman's criminal record was worse than the person he shot.
Now I find it funny how they're trying to make Martin look like some kind of thug because he smoked weed and flipped off someone taking a picture of him. I don't see a long arrest sheet for Martin yet.
Originally posted by Propulsion
So for some of the children here to just don’t seem to get it, and keep saying the same thing over and over and over again, I’ll throw out some answers to some of the questions people keep asking…