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Fabrice Muamba: Racist Twitter user jailed for 56 days (Right or Wrong)

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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:24 AM
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Hi All

I am sure by now if you are from the UK you would have come across the Fabrice Muamba story by now if not please see below



www.guardian.co.uk...

I am sat hear listing to the news on the radio and have just heard this update.

www.bbc.co.uk...


A student who admitted posting racially offensive comments on Twitter about footballer Fabrice Muamba has been jailed for 56 days. Swansea University student Liam Stacey, 21, from Pontypridd, admitted inciting racial hatred over remarks about the Bolton Wanderers player, who collapsed during a FA Cup tie at Tottenham. A district judge in Swansea called the comments "vile and abhorrent". Muamba, 23, who suffered a cardiac arrest, is still in intensive care. District Judge John Charles, sentencing Stacey at Swansea magistrates, him: "In my view, there is no alternative to an immediate prison sentence. "It was not the football world who was praying for [Muamba].... everybody was praying for his life." Fabrice Muamba, 23, remains critically ill after collapsing during a match on 17 March Stacey broke down in tears as he was led away to begin his jail term.





'Disciplinary' Stacey tried to "distance himself" from the tweets by claiming his account had been hacked, the court was told. He later tried to delete his page but was arrested the following day at his student house in Swansea. When interviewed by police, Stacey said he had been drinking since lunchtime on Saturday and was drunk when he made the comments. Stacey was initially released on bail pending sentence and was ordered not to use Twitter and other social networking sites. A Swansea University spokesperson said: "The student remains suspended from the university pending the conclusion of our disciplinary proceedings." Stacey is also registered as a player with Treorchy rugby club, where he has turned out for the second team on occasions. A statement after his arrest said: "The club wishes to completely disassociate itself from these comments and will be carrying out a full investigation into this matter." Muamba remains in intensive care in a London hospital where his condition is described as serious but stable.


Now I know there is a lot of talk on the site at the moment about racism and race hate.

So my question to ATS members is.

Should this man go to jail for racial comments he made on twitter ?

I personally think the MSN have milked the story for far too long now here in the UK, and use these types of racial story's to create divides in society.

But to go to jail for something you said ! Police state here we come.




posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:30 AM
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He tried to get out of it by saying someone hacked his account so he lied to the police at first plus his comments were distressing to many people who followed Fabrice Muamba's twitter account and many complained.
Jail? maybe to harsh but it is illegal in our law to put what he put down I think he was made an example of and if it stops people spouting racial hatred well I think its OK.


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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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WRONG!!!

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will land my ass In jail-21st century remix.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Should this man go to jail for racial comments he made on twitter ?


My question in reply... Why not?

A young 23 year old athlete collapsed during a game and actually died for around 2 hours after a cardiac arrest. He somehow was brought back to life and is still struggling to stay alive to this day. During all of this some moron decides to use twitter and abuse him racially.. Why on earth should the abuser not face punishment for his idiotic behavior? Racism is racism, no matter where you do it and it's always wrong and should always face punishment, in my opinion.

It doesn't matter if he's on the streets shouting his nonsense or in the comfort of his bedroom.. he should grow up, learn to live in this century and stop saying stupid stuff about another human being simply because of their skin colour. Or anything else like that for the record. This is 2012 for goodness sake, we should be moving past all that crap already.

This man was jailed for his racism.. I say good. Well done to those responsible for jailing him.

Just my opinion of course and I'm sure I'll get flamed but honestly, I don't see why these kind of questions continue to come up. Why should someone be allowed to say something on the internet where what they're saying is going to reach many people and yet not be allowed to say the same thing on the street where it's also going to reach people? It doesn't make sense to me.
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:33 AM
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I think that anyone who is stupid enough to make racially motivated abohrrent comments on a public forum deserves everything they get.

Freedom of speech is not freedom to hate.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by neformore
I think that anyone who is stupid enough to make racially motivated abohrrent comments on a public forum deserves everything they get.

Freedom of speech is not freedom to hate.


i couldn't have put it better myself. so in order to post more than one sentence, you got a star from me for that!


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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:40 AM
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People Die all the time what makes this case so special ? Why should the MSM hype this as a national tragedy.

we are letting the police state take control because we let them. This man been jailed is another step to totalitarianism



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by neformore
I think that anyone who is stupid enough to make racially motivated abohrrent comments on a public forum deserves everything they get.

Freedom of speech is not freedom to hate.


The BMP and other groups make racial comments all the time in public forums, They are not jailed.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by Rising Against


Should this man go to jail for racial comments he made on twitter ?


My question in reply... Why not?

A young 23 year old athlete collapsed during a game and actually died for around 2 hours after a cardiac arrest. He somehow was brought back to life and is still struggling to stay alive to this day. During all of this some moron decides to use twitter and abuse him racially.. Why on earth should the abuser not face punishment for his idiotic behavior? Racism is racism, no matter where you do it and it's always wrong and should always face punishment, in my opinion.

It doesn't matter if he's on the streets shouting his nonsense or in the comfort of his bedroom.. he should grow up, learn to live in this century and stop saying stupid stuff about another human being simply because of their skin colour. Or anything else like that for the record. This is 2012 for goodness sake, we should be moving past all that crap already.

This man was jailed for his racism.. I say good. Well done to those responsible for jailing him.

Just my opinion of course and I'm sure I'll get flamed but honestly, I don't see why these kind of questions continue to come up. Why should someone be allowed to say something on the internet where what they're saying is going to reach many people and yet not be allowed to say the same thing on the street where it's also going to reach people? It doesn't make sense to me.
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I find it ironic that you have JFK as your avatar.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:44 AM
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The point is people make racial comments all the time whether in a public forum or in private yet they are not jailed.

So racial comments made about people in the public eye will get you jailed ?
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:45 AM
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Whether you agree with the law or not, what he said is covered by the law now and you are not allowed to say it, thank the the last socialist gubermint for that.

Slight off topic, lets see how many police are sent to prison for lying about Mark Duggan



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:48 AM
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People Die all the time what makes this case so special ? Why should the MSM hype this as a national tragedy.


So. Does that mean they should be abused racially and the abusers be allowed to get away with it. No, of course not, that would be utter madness. What's your point here? Because it happens all the time it's all of a sudden ok?..

Also, you're exaggerating. They're not hyping this as a national tragedy at all. Football is the national sport here, it's watched by millions (and all over the world) and this is a very popular person who's suffering. Of course it's going to get a lot of attention.



we are letting the police state take control because we let them. This man been jailed is another step to totalitarianism


You can dress it up however you want, it doesn't matter really. A racist man is facing punishment for his racist comments today.. well done to those who made it happen in my opinion. There should be no place in our world for such hatred, especially in light of such a horrendous incident, it's not needed nor is it ever wanted.
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by Rising Against
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People Die all the time


So. Does that mean they should be abused racially and the abusers be allowed to get away with it. No, of course not, that would be utter madness.

What's your point here? Because it happens all the time it's all of a sudden ok?..



we are letting the police state take control because we let them. This man been jailed is another step to totalitarianism


You can dress it up however you want, it doesn't matter really. A racist man is facing punishment for his racist comments today.. well done to those who made it happen in my opinion. There should be no place in our world for such hatred, especially in light of such a horrendous incident, it's not needed nor is it ever wanted.



A Horrendous incident ? He had a heart attack ( In total, 146000 people have a heart attack every year and 94000 of them die. ... 179 people lose one of their parents every day to a fatal heart attack)

I would hardly call it a horrendous incident.

My point is that due to him been a footballer the man has been jailed for racial comments. If he was not a footballer and just a average joe would the man have been jailed ?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by judus
reply to post by Rising Against
 

People Die all the time what makes this case so special ? Why should the MSM hype this as a national tragedy.


Football player. Dropped on live tv watched by millions at the time. Did you really need to ask? What with the godlike status that's given to sport players...


But if a grown skinhead spouts all kinds of racist diatribe to some poor fellow on the street, it's no problem. Fine? What fine? Let alone jail...
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 07:08 AM
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Just so you know I added a bit more content to my post just before you replied.



A Horrendous incident ? He had a heart attack ( In total, 146000 people have a heart attack every year and 94000 of them die. ... 179 people lose one of their parents every day to a fatal heart attack)

I would hardly call it a horrendous incident.


Yes, and it's still a horrendous incident. As is any heart attack. Obviously.

Bear in mind the person in question here was only 23 years old as well. So yeah, I do stand by what I said.


My point is that due to him been a footballer the man has been jailed for racial comments. If he was not a footballer and just a average joe would the man have been jailed ?


Yes he still would have been jailed. But I see what you're saying still. Because Fabrice is famous and is a footballer the abuser has received much more attention for his comments. In fact I don't think I, or anyone else for that matter, said otherwise. And of course that's not fair to everyone else, again no one said otherwise there. But so what. This is a racist and he's facing punishment for his racist comments and we're shining a spotlight on him and what he's done.. how you, or anyone else, can defend him is beyond me. The fact he's facing punishment is a great thing. I hope this incident causes us to look closer at other incidents going on and put a stop to them - Like I said before, there's no room for such hatred in our world in my opinion.

You should know though, if anyone's ever being racist, whether it be face to face or through any social network out there, they can still be punished by the law if the incident is reported. It may not get all that much publicity, but people will still face punishment for it.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 07:30 AM
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Over exaggerating just slightly by saying the msm is milking this incident. This is a high profile case and millions of people want to know what is going on, the guy was caught spouting foul trash, he has been punished....so what.

Was he caught and jailed soley because the victim was high profile? probably

is the case getting the light of day because the victim is high profile? probably

But at the end of the day it shouldn't matter. No racist trash should be tolerated ANYWHERE, be it a forum like ATS, a social network like twitter, the papers or even on your own doorstep. People like the BMP should be tarred and feathered imo and all those that support such filth and hatred-mongering. Do other cases deserve attention? more people deserve to be caught? of course but the world wont change all by itself.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 07:31 AM
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why should it be ironic that rising against has jfk as an avatar? what has that comment got to do with anything in this thread. absolutely nothing unless you have information regarding a connection between jfk and the current op in question.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by judus


The BMP and other groups make racial comments all the time in public forums, They are not jailed.


For a start, it's the "BNP", and yes they do get locked up for racist comments. The only time it might not happen if there is racist remarks flying in both directions, then it is breach of the peace, public order offences or incitement to riot.

The idiot not only made a racist remark on a public forum, but he did it after the poor guy had a heart attack in front of millions! There would be a public outcry if something wasn't done.

The moderator above hit it on the head, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to hate.

56 days, IMO, is a light sentence for what the divvy said.

Oh, and further reading for you on the BNP and the law over racism (and others):

Racist is jailed
BNP: A party of convictions
Twelv e BNP members arrested for ‘racist’ leaflets
BNP member arrested for burning the Qur'an in his own garage

And lots more................



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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I agree with nearly all of you.


But if a criminal act is committed against you depending on your social status will depend on what punishment the offender will receive ?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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Racial comment will not be tolerated and the punishment are as follows.

Racial abusive towards.

Homeless= Police Caution.
Family on Benefits= Police warning.
Working class family= Court fine.
Middle Class Family= Fine + community service.
Upper Class Family= Suspended sentence.
Figure in the public eye= Custodial sentence.



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