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What is the problem in Korea?

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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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I would imagine that elements within the intelligence community(US and others) take RV very seriously.

Most people don't however, and disseminating information such as in the videos above would be like p***ing against the wind.

One thing is for sure, if NK do go and detonate a nuclear device in anger I would think very seriously about preparing for the worst event in human history.




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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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Soviet Russia was closer to the N Koreans but not the present Russia. China is its only ally but China is also getting fed up with their stupid antics. China brokered the food aid deal between the US and N Korea thinking that its a win-win situation with the N Koreans allowing inspection teams to monitor their nuclear programme as well as the US providing the food aid. In theory both sides should be happy but these N Korean have got to celebrate their founding father's anniversary and instead of firework display...they want to launch a missile...and they will do it. In my opinion they are rabid and uncontrollable. Iran is sane compared to them. If the US were to intimidate them like they do in Iran all hell will break loose. They really want to test people whether its patience or whether you can do what you say you would do. They sank a S Korean corvette with the lost of 45 lives not so long ago. With nothing much to do over there the hunger pang and boredom will get at you so fighting will take their mind off it.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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im telling you i think we need to watch this VERY closely because this is antagonizing if i have ever seen it



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 10:33 PM
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Even without that RV tip I would still be thinking the same thing. The Earth's atmosphere is getting more fragile these days with everything else, another big bang up there would further weaken the Earth's shield. Retaliations could get out of hand as well with more stress everywhere.

Long term I see two main branches coming up, Earth can maintain its cultural diversity as it grows and expands its boarders into space, or it can assimilate. With NK trying to get into the space race, understanding radiation is very important so I can appreciate some scientific know how in this area.

With their high focus on militarization and the rest of the region getting tired of the conflict there is a lot of concern with NK. It is wise that the international community is moving to take the nuclear option out of NK hands until they learn how to play better with others. NK has clearly demonstrated its capacity to maintain self determination over these years, but it is surrounded on a few issues.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by kwakakev
So as an Australian, what the hell is going on over there? Why after 60 or so years is this place still fighting?


The North Korean state maintains its hold over its people through the fear of invasion. It's not the only state that does this - actually, every state does. The the threat of war and the power to make war is actually the main thing holding every state together. However in some cases it is leaned on particularly heavily. As possibly the most isolated place on earth, North Korea keeps its population in perpetual fear of invasion, and whips up tension to keep its people in line.

A lot of people try to read North Korea in terms of international relations, when really the prime driver of its behavior is internal - The government is making all this noise so its people will feel threatened and fall in line rather than question the government or rebel.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 10:52 PM
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This large military force is a problem, a move towards a peace treaty is the best way to elevate the pressure this is placing on the region. It sounds like there have been many talks on reunifying Korea, but not sure if this is even feasible with such disparity in culture between the two. Long term it is a good aim, but in the mean time some recognition of the stalemate and separation of powers needs to be identified.

It sounds like China did good in helping NK and the US talk. There are many problems in this world though and just as you get over one another one pops up.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 12:54 AM
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The nature of war is a tough on. As with bacteria fighting in a Petri dish, nature is just looking for what works. With all these different communities spread throughout the planet it is the one tried and true method of conflict resolution. It cuts across all languages and its results are real and lasting. It has also helped shape the legal framework and social organisation that is common throughout much of the world. It searches for improvement with the better organised and more resourced nations and governments rising above the less capable ones.

A lot of this state of fear is well founded as relations are at 'ceasefire', establishing a state of 'peace' will remove a lot of tension. Negotiations have been going on for 60 years, so what is the problem? Is the NK government more inclined for self annihilation than establishing peaceful relations?

There is a very clear line in the sand to sort out any territorial issues. Is it the concept of a unified Korea that sends everyone shouting and pushing for position with any reorganisation? Does NK think it will lose if a bank gets set up? They have with the US supplying food. Does the UN need to sit SK and NK together in a room, bang their heads together and tell them to go work it out before you kill the rest of us?

SK and NK obviously cannot communicate in a reasonable and responsible manner and do need assistance. The issue of redistribution of power is going to be huge in any peace talks. Providing some responsible and reasoned international oversight by those who are familiar with the issues is going to be important to help these two find some common ground.
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posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 03:34 AM
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After spending a little time on this,

There are some advantages and disadvantages with how communism and capitalism relate and arrive at decisions. Short term profits and long term trends as well as issues of stability and accountability do create large divisions with the separation and structures of political power.

On a state level, NK and SK still sort out their own issues. On the national level, the party system from Westminster politics does provide a strong platform for discussion on conflicting issues. NK and SK gets 50 seats each in a new parliament so these complex differences can get the resources and time they need. When both sides can agree, great if not it still stays in the too hard basket for a bit longer.

As for head of state, the Emperor has some claim but would limit power to the functioning of parliament, not parliament issues. So if someone is making too many waves it is the Emperors job to sort it out, but he does not have power in telling parliament how to vote. There will probably be some blurring of these lines or the Emperor may not even want the troubles. Otherwise if some other agreeable head of state can be found, great.

One way to ease into this could be through a reconciliation committee to help establish the guidelines and technicalities for developing a platform of political debate across this DMZ. Start of with a team of 5 or 10 on each side to help define some of the boundaries and establish better communication protocols. As more responsible platform for discussion hardens, it can expand to help work through the issues of Korean Unification in its due time..



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