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Atheists: A hypothetical question

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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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if Islam became the most popular religion in the west the our reality would be Islamic (is it not true?)

Majorities establish truth... the majority of beings on the planet are "Theistic"




posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by SisyphusRide

Originally posted by NeverSleepingEyes
reply to post by Hydroman
 


what is your OP actually about?
I've read it a couple of times and still can't make out what it's about...
the title says it has to do with us atheists
the example of the folks on the ship imo refers to the implications of "democracy", if understood as doing what the majority decided
it also refers to morality
so what is your question? are we atheists less moral? that would be a fair question that has been answered over and over again, especially since it became clear morality has a neurological component as well as a sociological one.
the claim that only believers with the imaginary friend can act morally is just that, a stupid claim


moralities and majorities I like these comments myself I dunno about the rest of you folks.

Majorities in a way make reality true... afterall who decided the sky was blue even if some people see it as red?

you post was stimulating up until around your closing closed mindedness.

the claim that only believers with the imaginary friend can act morally is just that, a stupid claim

but whose the ones always talking about imaginary friends? God is not imaginary to Gods followers, but instead only an imaginary figment of the atheistic mind... we all know of God in some way or another and you are to speak Gods very word from your lips.


I can respect your opinions and beliefs...but I really can't stand when religious folks start with that all-inclusive language such as "we all know of God in some way". No..."we" don't. A whole lot of us deny the existence of God.

I know you probably didn't mean it that way. But for an atheist it's the material equivalent of walking into a church and saying that deep down inside everyone worships Satan. Personally, the only difference I can find between Christianity and Satan worship in a behavioral sense is that Christians have been responsible for a whole lot more torture, rape, war, and murder over the years...if for no other reason than their numbers. However, I don't run around lumping Christians and Satanists together because I'm sure it would offend a great many people. Please use the same consideration.

Again...I'm sure it's just habit. Most churches use the "we" pronoun a lot in an attempt to be inclusive. As a result, people often use this same sort of language when talking about "god" in the outside world.

Just an observation.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by SisyphusRide
if Islam became the most popular religion in the west the our reality would be Islamic (is it not true?)

Majorities establish truth... the majority of beings on the planet are "Theistic"


The only 'truth' that shows is that the majority of people believe in something that can not be proven to exist.
This is due to poor education in most parts of the world. It has been proven that higher intellectual individuals tend to not hold belief in a mythical being, for self evident reasons.

Thankfully, atheism and logic are slowly taking over.
After religion is abolished, the world will be a much more peaceful place.

That is our next step in evolution as a species.
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by milominderbinder
I can respect your opinions and beliefs...but I really can't stand when religious folks start with that all-inclusive language such as "we all know of God in some way".


it is the opposite of the atheist calling God imaginary... not difficult and much more friendlier sounding I would say, it just does not seem aggressive and if it is 'perceived' as aggression then that leads to another question.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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one of the most popular miswired sections of the brain of a serial killer is they mix the pain and associate it with pleasure somehow.

my pleasure in the Lord is in line with the majority of though patterns on this planet (theistic minds/theism)

could it be the atheist have their associations mixed with something else?

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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by SisyphusRide


could it be the atheist have their associations mixed with something else?


edit on 27-3-2012 by SisyphusRide because: (no reason given)


Yes, atheists are able to access to the logic and reasoning centers of the brain.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by paradox

Originally posted by SisyphusRide


could it be the atheist have their associations mixed with something else?


edit on 27-3-2012 by SisyphusRide because: (no reason given)


Yes, atheists are able to access to the logic and reasoning centers of the brain.


it sure seems the lot of them derive pleasure by inflicting pain (even if psychologically) to others.

the similarities are striking...



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by SisyphusRide

Originally posted by paradox

Originally posted by SisyphusRide


could it be the atheist have their associations mixed with something else?


edit on 27-3-2012 by SisyphusRide because: (no reason given)


Yes, atheists are able to access to the logic and reasoning centers of the brain.


it sure seems the lot of them derive pleasure by inflicting pain (even if psychologically) to others.

the similarities are striking...


Oh no, we commit psychological acts of violence now?!



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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atheist are not searching for truth... they have already found it (they are their own god)

the purpose of atheism is to inflict pain on Christians only because that is all they really know...



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by paradox

Originally posted by SisyphusRide

Originally posted by paradox

Originally posted by SisyphusRide


could it be the atheist have their associations mixed with something else?


edit on 27-3-2012 by SisyphusRide because: (no reason given)


Yes, atheists are able to access to the logic and reasoning centers of the brain.


it sure seems the lot of them derive pleasure by inflicting pain (even if psychologically) to others.

the similarities are striking...


Oh no, we commit psychological acts of violence now?!


yes very much so... have you not watched any criminal sociology cases or even know where the current science is on violent offenders?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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it starts small and it starts somewhere...

the somewhere's it starts are in many different places usually small but noticeable.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by SisyphusRide

yes very much so... have you not watched any criminal sociology cases or even know where the current science is on violent offenders?


Maybe you can link me to the science you speak of.

So far I only have the FBI's psychological profile on serial killers:


The FBI gave the standard profile of a serial killer, He is a person with few friends. He became much more religious just before he started murdering people. After reading all the available studies I could find and studying all the articles in the newspapers for over 30 years, I find what is most outstanding is Serial killers were sexually inhibited by their strong religious upbringing.

Nearly all serial killers are very devout men who were raised by members of Pentecostal sects, fundamentalist Catholics or were 'hard-shell' Baptists and Methodists."

Studies after study show serial killers are a product of this environment, not genetics.


home.comcast.net...



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by SisyphusRide

Originally posted by milominderbinder
I can respect your opinions and beliefs...but I really can't stand when religious folks start with that all-inclusive language such as "we all know of God in some way".


it is the opposite of the atheist calling God imaginary... not difficult and much more friendlier sounding I would say, it just does not seem aggressive and if it is 'perceived' as aggression then that leads to another question.


No...it isn't. The opposite of your statement would be saying "Even the Christians know that God and Satan are one and the same". or "Even Christians don't believe in God".

I have a right to say that I think God is imaginary. You have a right to say that you think God is real. What's rude is pushing those beliefs off on somebody else with the all-inclusive pronouns such as "we" and "us".

That's all....go ahead and keep on believing if that's what you feel is right. Shout from a hilltop...I don't care. Just leave me out of it, because I think it's nonsense and I don't want people to get the wrong idea about me, personally.

No big deal.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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we have advanced to the point where we can slay our brother from the armchair...

it is pleasurable to atheist as I have personally observed.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by SisyphusRide
we have advanced to the point where we can slay our brother from the armchair...

it is pleasurable to atheist as I have personally observed.



No one is killing anyone from the armchair. Don't be such a drama queen



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by milominderbinder

Originally posted by SisyphusRide

Originally posted by milominderbinder
I can respect your opinions and beliefs...but I really can't stand when religious folks start with that all-inclusive language such as "we all know of God in some way".


it is the opposite of the atheist calling God imaginary... not difficult and much more friendlier sounding I would say, it just does not seem aggressive and if it is 'perceived' as aggression then that leads to another question.


No...it isn't. The opposite of your statement would be saying "Even the Christians know that God and Satan are one and the same". or "Even Christians don't believe in God".

I have a right to say that I think God is imaginary. You have a right to say that you think God is real. What's rude is pushing those beliefs off on somebody else with the all-inclusive pronouns such as "we" and "us".

That's all....go ahead and keep on believing if that's what you feel is right. Shout from a hilltop...I don't care. Just leave me out of it, because I think it's nonsense and I don't want people to get the wrong idea about me, personally.

No big deal.


there is no aggression (via planetary majority) in telling someone God loves them and is all around them, he is the creator of all things that are good... (because mans works are questionable)



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by paradox

Originally posted by SisyphusRide
we have advanced to the point where we can slay our brother from the armchair...

it is pleasurable to atheist as I have personally observed.



No one is killing anyone from the armchair. Don't be such a drama queen


I am not.. see signature...

this is a scientific study I am basing my opinions on. (notice the use of the word 'my')



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by SisyphusRide
(because mans works are questionable)


Oh, you mean like "god?"



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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atheist are aggressive and enjoy deriving pleasure by inflicting psychological pain via persecution of naturalized Christians and Theist alike who would otherwise even know of a atheist's existence.

I met my first real atheist on ATS and before then I only seen them on shows like about Jeffrey Dahmer.


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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by SisyphusRide

Originally posted by paradox

Originally posted by SisyphusRide
we have advanced to the point where we can slay our brother from the armchair...

it is pleasurable to atheist as I have personally observed.



No one is killing anyone from the armchair. Don't be such a drama queen


I am not.. see signature...

this is a scientific study I am basing my opinions on. (notice the use of the word 'my')


For a 'scientific study' you sure show a blatant disregard for the scientific method.

Science is not conducted with a bias. You would not be the right candidate to conduct said 'study.'

I am sure you would be disappointed to hear the actual results. That most killers are more religious according to FBI criminologists, and that most wars throughout history have been based upon religion. Religion is a disease plaguing humanity. Once we get over that barrier (which is slowly but surely happening!) we will be able to live on a peaceful planet. Not one in conflict over people doing conflicting things because "that's what their god tells them to do."

Why is it that you ignored the FBI serial killer profile I included in the post above? If this were a proper study, you would be taking that into consideration as well.



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