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Trayvon Martin Shooter Told Cops Teenager Went For His Gun

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posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 11:37 PM
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reply to post by TruckDriver69
 


Why, are you scared that you can't actually back up what you're spewing with facts, eh? Scared because I called you out to show your non-existant sources, eh?




posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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reply to post by TruckDriver69
 


Sir,

The "Child" has a name, he was Trayvon Martin.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Zimmerman did not break any laws. Treyvon did though!
Since we know there was a scuffle, a fight,
and treyvon had no cuts or bruises on him or any signs of a struggle.
Eye witness accounts that treyvon was on top of zimmerman hitting him

Points to THAT zimmerman never hit treyvon! Which would mean treyvon
enganged in the only illegal activity that day by starting the fight and assaulting zimmerman..
Trayvon Martin's funeral director: No signs of fight
www.thegrio.com...
Well, why would a man who has a gun
that was on the phone with 911
waiting for police to get there
start a fist fight with a guy he did not know
was armed or not? He wouldn't, most law abiding people smart
enough to conceal and carry is smart enough
to know you do not pick a fist fight with a armed person..
Treyvon was the only one that knew trayvon had no gun,
so if zimmerman knew he himself had a gun, but did not know if treyvon did or not
why would zimmerman start a fist fight knowing if he throws a fist the other guy
might shoot him? He wouldn't. Treyvon not thinking, let his emotions get the best
of him and he started a fist fight. Had treyvon REALLY felt
threatened by zimmerman, he would of ran when his G/F told him too, he sized zimmerman
up, and thought he could take him in a fist fight. Zimmerman would of never caught up with
treyvon had treyvon not wanted him too...[



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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reply to post by AliceBlackman
 


The "Child" was caught with burglary tools at his local high school. He was caught with dope in a baggie. His non-violent history was on a final display the night he died. The "Child" was uneducated in the art of civil discourse and he paid dearly for it.

I see where the argument is here though. You expect the majority to just sit idly by while the minority has free reign with life and death on our streets. That is where the real anger is coming from. If you were really concerned about the death of "African American Children" you wouldn't have time to be posting on this board as there is a real genocide going on in every inner city in America.

We know the real reason for the outrage here and its not because of some perverted opinion of why this "Child" died. It's because "certain people" see a real threat in their ability to prey on the rest of us when the aggressors of our society are eliminated. That is the real truth with the outrage. That truth is the absurdity of this whole situation.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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reply to post by AliceBlackman
 


So do the thousands of other African American Children that are executed by their own every year but I don't see you spouting off their names here. Of course we are talking about this golden "Child" and that makes all the difference in the world.

The self righteous indignation displayed by many here screams of ignorance and outright stupidity. Its opportunistic at best to say this was anything but self defense and even if it wasn't how is it any different from the many more injustices when the tables are turned? Ignorance is bliss I guess!



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by AliceBlackman
reply to post by TruckDriver69
 


Sir,

The "Child" has a name, he was Trayvon Martin.


REPEAT

The "Child" has a name, he was Trayvon Martin.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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This is what im talking about thank you for your work. So even in the video it shows he was attacked. Look people there are so many half truths running around its not funny. Let the prosecutors do there jobs the more we put up fake evidence the worse its going to be healing the wounds this makes. Until the states attorneys office decides if there is evidence to disprove Zimmerman story hes innocent.Let me explain there not trying to prove Treyvon was murdered.They know he was killed what the police have to prove is Zimmermans statements were false.

Physical evidence sides with him. He claimed he was jumped and beaten has a witness to corroborate that story in fact there was 2 witnesses the other a 13 year old boy.. Has 911 tape of him screaming like a girl. Has proof of injuries with police and paramedics who treated him.I can tell you reading that there was a scuffle over the gun. He had a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm pistol.When the police confiscated it there was still the empty round in the chamber. This means something prevented the slide from ejecting the round such as someone holding it. The only way he can be convicted is the police finds evidence he lied and i have no idea what that might be but let the authorities do there job and stop all this trials in the court of public opinion. Ive had several clients that were Innocent but local media tried to convict.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Some of us with names are better able to interact with humans than this "Child" was. This "Child" was a criminal and he was uneducated in the art of human interaction. It's not that hard to do but I guess this "Child" found it very difficult. I suspect the parents are more to blame for this "Child's" demise than anyone.
edit on 30-3-2012 by TruckDriver69 because: typo



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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The Jewelry is hearsay, I can not believe the school would not have investigated and taken disciplinary action, they certainly did over an empty baggy of marijuana and graphitti.

We have no idea how their conversation went, so not sure how any conclusions can be drawn about exactly how polite Trayvon was to Mr. Zimmerman. We do know an A -B student is no longer with us and from the details of his back ground he had some work to do to catch up with Mr. Zimmerman's prior exploits.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by TruckDriver69
reply to post by Annee
 

"Child"


The Child's name is/was Trayvon Martin
The Child's name is/was Trayvon Martin
The Child's name is/was Trayvon Martin
The Child's name is/was Trayvon Martin
The Child's name is/was Trayvon Martin



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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reply to post by BIGPoJo
 


This guy just saw a black kid and thought he was up to no good a killed



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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reply to post by dragonridr
 


Question. How do you explain the fact that Martin had no signs of any sort of physical altercation such as lacerations or bruising, even redness, on his hands and knuckles? People don't get out of fights without any evidence of such fight happening. Also, how do you explain the fact that Zimmerman's clothes are completely free of blood? If we are to believe he shot Martin in extremely close quarters while he was on top of Zimmerman attacking him, there would be evidence of such a thing happening on Zimmerman's clothing. I've personally shot the gun Zimmerman has in his possession in close quarters like what allegedly transpired that evening, and I was sprayed with fake blood.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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Mostly assumptions on your part but the FACTS as we know them, reported by the POLICE show this as a just action by the VICTIM. The "CHILD" was not taught how to deal with people in a civil manner. Stick with the facts as reported by the police if you have that capability.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
Zimmerman did not break any laws. Treyvon did though!
Since we know there was a scuffle, a fight,
and treyvon had no cuts or bruises on him or any signs of a struggle.
Eye witness accounts that treyvon was on top of zimmerman hitting him

Points to THAT zimmerman never hit treyvon! Which would mean treyvon
enganged in the only illegal activity that day by starting the fight and assaulting zimmerman..
Trayvon Martin's funeral director: No signs of fight
www.thegrio.com...
Well, why would a man who has a gun
that was on the phone with 911
waiting for police to get there
start a fist fight with a guy he did not know
was armed or not? He wouldn't, most law abiding people smart
enough to conceal and carry is smart enough
to know you do not pick a fist fight with a armed person..
Treyvon was the only one that knew trayvon had no gun,
so if zimmerman knew he himself had a gun, but did not know if treyvon did or not
why would zimmerman start a fist fight knowing if he throws a fist the other guy
might shoot him? He wouldn't. Treyvon not thinking, let his emotions get the best
of him and he started a fist fight. Had treyvon REALLY felt
threatened by zimmerman, he would of ran when his G/F told him too, he sized zimmerman
up, and thought he could take him in a fist fight. Zimmerman would of never caught up with
treyvon had treyvon not wanted him too...[


Zimmerman should have taken the 911 operators advice im not buying his part of the story here.I think he did indeed confront him. But walking up to him and asking him questions doesnt mean Treyvon should have attacked either.He thought he was bigger then Zimmerman.And i think he got cocky and jumped him. Both of these mistakes leads to a dead 17 year old and thats a shame. Two lives were ruined that night Teyvon is dead and zimmerman will be an OJ Simpson.Hes already been kicked out of college people are going to be reluctant to hire him and hes dealing with mental issues over the shooting.Hes in hiding with death threats will spend the rest of his life worried about someone coming after him.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Because the "Child" was doing all the damage. When the victim was able he defended himself as allowed by law he did so. No need to hit the "Child" or cause bruising to the "Child" when a well placed bullet will do just fine.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to reply as you're just a troll, as it is obvious to spot from your posts, but, IF Martin did punch Zimmerman multiple times, as allegedly reported, Martin would have some sort of physical signs of such an altercation taking place in the form of lacerations, redness, or bruising on his hands and knuckles. As reported by the funeral director who was in close proximity with Martin after he died, Martin had no such physical evidence on his body other than the gunshot wound.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Believer101
reply to post by dragonridr
 


Question. How do you explain the fact that Martin had no signs of any sort of physical altercation such as lacerations or bruising, even redness, on his hands and knuckles? People don't get out of fights without any evidence of such fight happening. Also, how do you explain the fact that Zimmerman's clothes are completely free of blood? If we are to believe he shot Martin in extremely close quarters while he was on top of Zimmerman attacking him, there would be evidence of such a thing happening on Zimmerman's clothing. I've personally shot the gun Zimmerman has in his possession in close quarters like what allegedly transpired that evening, and I was sprayed with fake blood.


This is not the movies blood splatters occur when the bullet exits the body not entering it. As for blood on Zimmerman the paramedics cleaned him up.Paramedics are not allowed to release someone who is bleeding they must stop the bleeding. My guess is they used a coagulant or instant skin. He was advised he should go to the doctor by the paramedics and apparently went according to his lawyer. And apparently he didnt hit Treyvon at all but the autopsy report will be able to tell if zimmerman lied here.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:17 AM
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reply to post by Believer101
 


Oh come on.. I'm the troll and you are the one using fake blood analogies from imaginary fake blood tales that you spin for our amusement? The facts are the facts and if the POLICE have not arrested him and the Prosecutor has not charged him then it was a legal shoot.

Having said that, I take it you think the police are in his corner and they are doing a cover up. If it happens they do arrest him due to minorities such as yourself being so demanding how can you square that with the fact that the POLICE seem to be lying now. You people are so predictable.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by Believer101
reply to post by TruckDriver69
 


I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to reply as you're just a troll, as it is obvious to spot from your posts, but, IF Martin did punch Zimmerman multiple times, as allegedly reported, Martin would have some sort of physical signs of such an altercation taking place in the form of lacerations, redness, or bruising on his hands and knuckles. As reported by the funeral director who was in close proximity with Martin after he died, Martin had no such physical evidence on his body other than the gunshot wound.


Really people win fights all the time without getting hurt come on you know that. knuckles dont bruise easily unless you break them.



posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by dragonridr

Originally posted by Believer101
reply to post by dragonridr
 


Question. How do you explain the fact that Martin had no signs of any sort of physical altercation such as lacerations or bruising, even redness, on his hands and knuckles? People don't get out of fights without any evidence of such fight happening. Also, how do you explain the fact that Zimmerman's clothes are completely free of blood? If we are to believe he shot Martin in extremely close quarters while he was on top of Zimmerman attacking him, there would be evidence of such a thing happening on Zimmerman's clothing. I've personally shot the gun Zimmerman has in his possession in close quarters like what allegedly transpired that evening, and I was sprayed with fake blood.


This is not the movies blood splatters occur when the bullet exits the body not entering it. As for blood on Zimmerman the paramedics cleaned him up.Paramedics are not allowed to release someone who is bleeding they must stop the bleeding. My guess is they used a coagulant or instant skin. He was advised he should go to the doctor by the paramedics and apparently went according to his lawyer. And apparently he didnt hit Treyvon at all but the autopsy report will be able to tell if zimmerman lied here.


I'm not talking about splattering from behind. I'm talking about it coming from the front. As I said in my original post, I've personally shot the gun Zimmerman has in his possession in close quarters like what allegedly transpired that evening, and I was sprayed with fake blood. And I wasn't talking about the bleeding from Zimmerman around the wounds. I'm talking about on his clothing. There wasn't a speck of blood on any article of clothing Zimmerman was wearing in the video.
And you missed what I said, like you did with the other points I made which leads me to believe you didn't actually read what I stated, I'm talking about on Martins hands and knuckles. How do you explain the fact that Martin had no signs of any sort of physical altercation such as lacerations or bruising, even redness, on his hands and knuckles? If we are to believe Martin beat Zimmerman by punching him multiple times, Martin would have some sort of physical evidence of such a physical altercation taking place, such as lacerations, redness, swelling, or bruises on his hands and knuckles.



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