"Mainstream science has not satisfactorily engaged with the UFO mystery. The disappointing history of that engagement will be discussed here and what can be done and should be done will be covered here."
When politicised & militarised Science tried to bury the UFO subject – the Condon report exposed
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43 years ago the controversy plagued Colorado University Condon committee scientific study of UFOs was released – the result of a two year US Air Force half a million dollar funded investigation. It concluded “that nothing has come from the study of UFOs in the past 21 years that has added to scientific knowledge. Careful consideration of the record as it is available to us leads us to conclude that further extensive study of the UFOs probably cannot be justified in the expectation that science will be advanced thereby.”
The US Air force used the report to end its public bondage to the UFO problem. The notorious Project Blue Book was terminated and publicly at least the Air Force were out of the UFO business. This was the “fix” that was intended all along. The Condon report has since been used as the basis of continuing mainstream scientific and sceptical rejection of the reality of UFOs.
Just how credible was the Condon report and its conclusions? The National Academy of Sciences endorsed the study. Much of the media uncritically embraced the report. UFOs were dead and buried. However no one informed the UFO corpse. In 1973 UFOs were back with a vengeance in the one of the biggest UFO waves the US had ever experienced. UFOs have refused to be put down and they continue to be reported and continue to be marginalised by science..
SCIENCE and the UFO CONTROVERSY
Originally posted by thesearchfortruth
We already know how biased the Condon Report was (see this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...) lol
Furthermore, even after Condon abandoned his intellectual integrity and scientific objectivity and proclaimed that there was nothing of interest to science about the UFO phenomenon, and that "studying the believers" was the way to go, strange sightings continued to be of interest to the highest levels of the US government, such as the 1976 Tehran case..
The conclusions in the Condon Report – at least so far as they are generally known to the public, and, more important, government officials, stopped the interest in the UFO phenomenon by government dead in its tracks. It changed the way that the people who matter (i.e. the ones who could fund a serious study of the UFO phenomenon) think about UFOs. It became a subject for historians to study, more from a cultural perspective than anything else. It became fodder for fringe radio and the alternative media, but not the mainstream media, which could make a difference. It became science-fiction, instead of science.
The Sturrock Panel conclusions
1. The UFO problem is not a simple one, and it is unlikely that there is any simple universal answer;
2. Whenever there are unexplained observations, there is the possibility that scientists will learn something new by studying those observations;
3. Studies should concentrate on cases which include as much independent physical evidence as possible and strong witness testimony;
4. Some form of formal regular contact between the UFO community and physical scientists could be productive; and
5. It is desirable that there be institutional support for research in this area.
Condon Report Peer Reviewed Analysis - P. A. Sturrock, Center for Space Science and Astrophysics, Stanford University (pdf)
Originally posted by TeaAndStrumpets
It's always puzzled me why so many (but by no means all) of those calling themselves UFO 'skeptics' refuse to apply that same skepticism to the Condon Report. The Report's holes and faults are obvious to any objective reader after only a single pass through. And there are many fantastic passages by the investigating scientists which fit *extremely uncomfortably* with Condon's dismissive conclusions..
"The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from The Condon Report's content, namely, that a phenomenon with such a high ratio of unexplained cases (about 30 percent) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study.
From a scientific and engineering standpoint, it is unacceptable to simply ignore substantial numbers of unexplained observations... the only promising approach is a continuing moderate-level effort with emphasis on improved data collection by objective means... involving available remote sensing capabilities and certain software changes."
Ronald D Story - American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UFO Subcommittee -New York: Doubleday, 1980
Originally posted by K-PAX-PROT
Superb thread Karl12, it certainly opens up avenues of the "what else is being made to look official but contains biased one-sided official conclusions".As has been pointed out that to ignore or side step those cases that contain levels of very high strangeness or are just to hard to "force fit" debunking explanations on is surely not a justifiable , fair or scientific method of reaching finale scientific conclusions .ALL data has to be included , that is the scientific way after all and sceptics and debunkers are first to shout from the roof tops if a UFO case has lacked any real scientific investigation but when it is shown that a good percentage of the hard cases where either ignored or had force fit explanations then its of no significance to them..
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
Herbert Spencer, British philosopher
“Of 1,356 AAS members replying to a questionnaire from Prof. Peter A. Sturrock, an astrophysicist and member of Stanford’s Applied Physics Department, four-fifths feel that the UFO mystery ‘certainly, probably or possibly deserves scientific study.’ ”
“Science: Why the UFOs Won’t Go Away / Astronomers Pressing for More Study of UFO Riddle"
Originally posted by gort51
Maybe the Air Force IS correct, they dont investigate anything, when their pilots see something, The Navy steps in...
This document is one of the rarest documents in the national archives linking the Office of Naval Intelligence to any association with the investigation of the phenomenon and offers an early clue that the study of the UFO phenomenon did not fall totally within the realm of the Air Force. Could the naval UFO experience be more involved than the air force..?
The Office of Naval Intelligence and UFOs
The sister Services, Army, USAF and CIA, DIA and NSA have released UFO files as have the British, Danes, French, Brazilians, Australians and even Uruguayans. Now the Russians.
It seems the US Navy’s turn. What specifically? For starters:
1. WWII study of ususual radar returns.
2. 4th AF documents concerning with air intrusion of Hanford, Navy radar and aircraft assets tasked to intercept same
3. About 50 AAF and Navy documents formerly TS and below refer to an equal number of other documents on the Scandinavian Ghost Rockets
4. A small amount of Navy documents in the USAF Project Blue Book files refer to other Navy documents not seen
5. AIR 203 was a Joint TS USAF/Navy study of UFOs. Yet Navy claims no records
6. BurAero analysis of AF document released not by Navy but DOD.
7. In 1951 Dr. Urner Liddel ONR claims after studying 2000 cases that UFOs are Skyhook balloons (USAF does even have 2000 cases in 1951. What does ONR have?
8. Korean War radar cases in OP322V, OP322V2 and COMNAVFE. (Some incomplete reports this era in Project BB)
9. Navy Sec Dan Kimball set UFO project in ONI in 1952
10. CIA document enumerating intel asset dedicated to UFOs refers to analyst in ONI
11. The old Hydrographic office was a published source of reports for the US Navy, merchant shipping and aircraft over waters. These were not investigated?
12. Large resevoir of “war stories” by old Navy salts, esp., aircrews and radar operators and other CIC personnel.
Further, Project Blue Book record indicate numerous contacts thru Air Attaches with foreign govt on UFOs. Naval Attaches have not such contacts even with Navies that UFO significant UFO incidents or Navy UFO project, Argentina, other incidents Chile, Brazil?
In reviews for the Clinton Executive Order declassifying records over 25 years old, Army and AF comes up with hundreds of UFO documents even though these were not specifically required for index. The Navy nada.
“We do not investigate UFOs.”
“We do not keep records filed for such a topic as UFOs.”
“If we had any records on UFOs, they were destroyed.”
“If we had any records on UFOs, we transferred them to the USAF.”
The dog eat my home work. Lost at sea!
Jan Aldrich, Project1947.com
Originally posted by Frith
Science is dogmatic when it wants to be. At least when it comes to subjects relegated as conspiracies. Some scientists, such as Clyde Tombaugh (the astronomer who discovered Pluto), have spoken out on what they've seen, but its fallen on deaf ears in the scientific community.
The reasons of which can only be speculated upon.
"Most scientists have never had the occasion to confront evidence concerning the UFO phenomenon. To a scientist, the main source of hard information (other than his own experiments' observations) is provided by the scientific journals. With rare exceptions, scientific journals do not publish reports of UFO observations. The decision not to publish is made by the editor acting on the advice of reviewers. This process is self-reinforcing: the apparent lack of data confirms the view that there is nothing to the UFO phenomenon, and this view (prejudice) works against the presentation of relevant data."
Peter A. Sturrock, "An Analysis of the Condon Report on the Colorado UFO Project," Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol.1, No.1, 1987