Corkscrew chemtrail..

Hi all ATS'ers..just captured this, ok, it's not the end of the world..i just wanted to share it with ATS members.
nobody has a clue, including me..how to put up a bloody pic..

Hi all ATS'ers..just captured this, ok, it's not the end of the world..i just wanted to share it with ATS members.

and we see nothing

where's the corkscrew?

reply to post by union_jack


Two years on the site and you cant post a picture yet? I think 99% of members know how. There are tutorials
on how to do it.www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by union_jack


nobody has a clue, including me..how to put up a bloody pic..

You're half right.

Who is Nobody?

I keep seeing his name mentioned.

reply to post by union_jack


Here...I'll post a corkscrew...so we have something to visualize...until you figure out how to post your picture!

reply to post by union_jack


Don't feel bad, I could never post a pic from ATS, even with the "tutorials". However, one of the posters was kind enough to direct me to: tinypic.com...

You can upload pictures from your computer on there. It works like a charm every time!

reply to post by jerryznv


or even

You mean like these?











Here is an old thread with some explanations in it. www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by usmc0311


Btilliant pics..much better than the one i could'nt put on.

Originally posted by union_jack
Hi all ATS'ers..just captured this, ok, it's not the end of the world..i just wanted to share it with ATS members.
nobody has a clue, including me..how to put up a bloody pic..

If you click on "TOOLS" at the top of the page, then click "ATS Uploads" you can upload images onto ATS there by clicking "SELECT IMAGE FILE". Once you have uploaded it you can click on the picture and it will show a code that you can copy and paste into a post to show that image.

I found that a great way to learn how to do stuff was to look at other peoples posts that contain something you want to do (such as an image), and click quote on their post to see how they achieved it. It's probably a good idea to learn how to do it before posting a thread regarding an image. Good luck and I hope that helps

reply to post by usmc0311


Picture #1?

Contrails....and yes, one contrail has been affected by the jet's wingtip vortex turbulence (ALL airplanes make corkscrew wingtip vortices.....but, you can't always see them, unless some physical allows it).

The rest of the photos are ALL rocket launches.

The disruption of the rocket trails is caused by the winds at various altitudes....or, wind shearing.

reply to post by ProudBird


I'm not sure where the first one came from. I know the others were rocket launch photos of some sort. I just put up what I could find on google for the OP. Cool looking though.

My first thought when I saw the first one was some sort of show plane doing tricks or something like that.

Contrails form large scale corkscrews when they form in a rotating mass of air, like a lee rotor.

Check out this time lapse:
www.weathervideohd.tv... loud-on-mountain-turbulence-clouds-primary-types-clouds-accessory-types-sky-moods-wind

Now imagine the mass of air without the cloud in it, then a plane flies through it, forming a contrail which turns into a corkscrew/spiral.

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by usmc0311

 

Picture #1?

Contrails....and yes, one contrail has been affected by the jet's wingtip vortex turbulence (ALL airplanes make corkscrew wingtip vortices.....but, you can't always see them, unless some physical allows it).

I don't think that's wingtip turbulence, it's too large scale. It's some large rotating regions of air. Notice how it affects the other trails somewhat.

This pic illustrates the difference between small scale and large scale spiraling.

The contrail is at 45 degrees to a region of ripple clouds. Ripple clouds are formed kind of like waves in the ocean, and often have volumes of slow rotation above or below the ripple (it's simple fluid mechanics). The contrail itself has pendules which result from the interaction of the wingtip wake vortices, but the large scale twists come from the interaction with the rotating regions of the ripple cloud field.



And here's an illustration of convection rolls - a type of rotating air mass associated with cloud streets.

here u go

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reply to post by SteelToe


Your photos show views from above (as in, from a satellite).

In both photos the contrails were formed by an airplane that was in a continuous turning 360° circle. The likely reason for that kind of activity is an AWACS-type of airplane, either actively providing AWACS support, or in a training situation.

The airplane itself was "orbiting" or "station keeping" over a particular area in relation to the ground beneath --- the contrails, as they formed, were then affected by the winds, and they drifted....hence, the pattern seen.

It is important to be able to distinguish, in three dimensions, the "ground track" kind of contrails, as above --- and the ones posted as examples earlier, that are 3-dimensional, but laid out horizontally.

Think, literally, of the business end of a wine corkscrew. laid on its side.

Your examples compare more to a coffee-mug-bottom stain, as the mug is picked up and placed down sequentially....

Here: I was thinking, "I wish I knew enough about computer graphics to draw a diagram, and post it."

Then, found this (even better) little animated graphic:

Contrail Simulations

When the above (^ ^ ^) first opens, it shows how the commonly-claimed "grids" or "waffle patterns" are made.

Then, you can use the slider controls within the Applet (is that what it's called?) to adjust.

It only shows airplanes on straight flight courses, so you have to imagine them in a turn....but the drifting of the contrails, the principles, should be clear to you.

reply to post by Uncinus


Your post below this has educated me!!

I really am impressed with the depth of research, and thanks for providing even more information, and lessons, to me than I expected.