'Honour' violence is acceptable, say one in five young British Asians

well that explains why they only asked a couple christians
spare the rod...eh wot?

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there is no evidence from you to counter my claims.My arguements stands .You have not provided any evidence to counter my arguements except rants.The british holocaust was 1.8 billion was deliberate and in following of the malthusian policy that the british followed in india. Believe whatever you like.

The imperialist agenda as usual was crystal clear and it is standard british strategy to blame the victim,just like how the ultrarich blame the poor for the nation's ills.

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You will not derail this thread.

So do you agree with the honour killings - yes or no?

What is so hard about answering such a straight forward question?

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Jameela
Supposedly they did poll some Muslims, but out of those polled 92% did NOT agree with any physical punishment against a family member who committed sinful acts. Physical punishment can mean something as simple as spanking or slap by the way, it does not necessarily mean murder!

Also, if you look, a higher percentage of Christians polled agreed with Physical punishment, as 8% of all Christians polled believed this was alright.

edit on 25-3-2012 by Jameela because: (no reason given)

If you look at page 4 of the survey you will find that 20% of young Muslims support physcial punishment for female family members.

You are correct however that out of the small number of Christians asked (14 people) 23% supported physcial punishment for female family members.

However, 14 people has no statistical validity what so ever (generally speaking you need at least 30 people in any sort of survey).

On the other hand, the poll of 254 Muslims has some statistical validity.

You do not know how to read the poll, there were 16 Muslims who agreed with physical punishment in certain circumstances... look to your right under the word Muslim 16 out of 254 is your 6% the 14 people question were in the other category, not Christian, they polled 43 Christians and 8% of those agreed with physical punishment.


On page 4 Christians were higher percentage of agreeing with physical punishment in all categories but one, and that category was marrying someone disagreeable (and this was only a 1% difference between Christian and Muslim). Other than that for dressing improperly, disobeying their father etc Christians agreed with physical punishment in higher percentages than Muslims.

Also, read page 5, honor killings, specifically killing for honor, Christians had a higher percent of agreeing to this too! Christians polled were at 4% agreement whereas Muslims only 3% agreement. LOL... and you judge us?

You who argue that only Muslim do honor killings or think its right just showed us a poll that have Christians agreeing with it in a higher percentage than Muslims! That is too funny!

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I neither agree nor disagree.You allowed and encouraged the wahabbi menace to make conquest of nations ,now its coming to bite you. every action has equal and opposite reaction

Originally posted by Jameela

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Jameela
Supposedly they did poll some Muslims, but out of those polled 92% did NOT agree with any physical punishment against a family member who committed sinful acts. Physical punishment can mean something as simple as spanking or slap by the way, it does not necessarily mean murder!

Also, if you look, a higher percentage of Christians polled agreed with Physical punishment, as 8% of all Christians polled believed this was alright.

edit on 25-3-2012 by Jameela because: (no reason given)

If you look at page 4 of the survey you will find that 20% of young Muslims support physcial punishment for female family members.


for the record i have been called white bastard by asians and britain is #e
You are correct however that out of the small number of Christians asked (14 people) 23% supported physcial punishment for female family members.

However, 14 people has no statistical validity what so ever (generally speaking you need at least 30 people in any sort of survey).

On the other hand, the poll of 254 Muslims has some statistical validity.

You do not know how to read the poll, there were 16 Muslims who agreed with physical punishment in certain circumstances... look to your right under the word Muslim 16 out of 254 is your 6% the 14 people question were in the other category, not Christian, they polled 43 Christians and 8% of those agreed with physical punishment.


On page 4 Christians were higher percentage of agreeing with physical punishment in all categories but one, and that category was marrying someone disagreeable (and this was only a 1% difference between Christian and Muslim). Other than that for dressing improperly, disobeying their father etc Christians agreed with physical punishment in higher percentages than Muslims.

Also, read page 5, honor killings, specifically killing for honor, Christians had a higher percent of agreeing to this too! Christians polled were at 4% agreement whereas Muslims only 3% agreement. LOL... and you judge us?

You who argue that only Muslim do honor killings or think its right just showed us a poll that have Christians agreeing with it in a higher percentage than Muslims! That is too funny!

edit on 25-3-2012 by Jameela because: (no reason given)

i will judge whomever i please, you all do it
religion and immigration is the downfall of my country
believe me
people like you jameela will follow blindly
are u asian?
i suspect so
here in britain we are fed up with it
in the midlands the council have had to allocate more funding for..
cleaning up your #e you dump on the streets
you will be silenced wen i show a video in a few weeks
of how immigration is spreading and the effects on normal BRITISH people

Originally posted by davesmart

Originally posted by Jameela

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Jameela
Supposedly they did poll some Muslims, but out of those polled 92% did NOT agree with any physical punishment against a family member who committed sinful acts. Physical punishment can mean something as simple as spanking or slap by the way, it does not necessarily mean murder!

Also, if you look, a higher percentage of Christians polled agreed with Physical punishment, as 8% of all Christians polled believed this was alright.

edit on 25-3-2012 by Jameela because: (no reason given)

If you look at page 4 of the survey you will find that 20% of young Muslims support physcial punishment for female family members.

You are correct however that out of the small number of Christians asked (14 people) 23% supported physcial punishment for female family members.

However, 14 people has no statistical validity what so ever (generally speaking you need at least 30 people in any sort of survey).

On the other hand, the poll of 254 Muslims has some statistical validity.

You do not know how to read the poll, there were 16 Muslims who agreed with physical punishment in certain circumstances... look to your right under the word Muslim 16 out of 254 is your 6% the 14 people question were in the other category, not Christian, they polled 43 Christians and 8% of those agreed with physical punishment.


On page 4 Christians were higher percentage of agreeing with physical punishment in all categories but one, and that category was marrying someone disagreeable (and this was only a 1% difference between Christian and Muslim). Other than that for dressing improperly, disobeying their father etc Christians agreed with physical punishment in higher percentages than Muslims.

Also, read page 5, honor killings, specifically killing for honor, Christians had a higher percent of agreeing to this too! Christians polled were at 4% agreement whereas Muslims only 3% agreement. LOL... and you judge us?

You who argue that only Muslim do honor killings or think its right just showed us a poll that have Christians agreeing with it in a higher percentage than Muslims! That is too funny!

edit on 25-3-2012 by Jameela because: (no reason given)

i will judge whomever i please, you all do it
religion and immigration is the downfall of my country
believe me
people like you jameela will follow blindly
are u asian?
i suspect so
here in britain we are fed up with it
in the midlands the council have had to allocate more funding for..
cleaning up your #e you dump on the streets
you will be silenced wen i show a video in a few weeks
of how immigration is spreading and the effects on normal BRITISH people

I am a Sayyida Arab. I could care less what your opinion of me is. I do not judge you, only your policy in our countries, we would be happy to clean up after ourselves but you all will not leave us alone in order to do so, you are too busy protecting your 'interests' and supporting terrorism in our countries!

Originally posted by Jameela
Also, read page 5, honor killings, specifically killing for honor, Christians had a higher percent of agreeing to this too! Christians polled were at 4% agreement whereas Muslims only 3% agreement. LOL... and you judge us?

It is interesting that you think I am a Christian. I'm not.

Can I ask you, did Muhammad lead a perfect life?

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Jameela
Also, read page 5, honor killings, specifically killing for honor, Christians had a higher percent of agreeing to this too! Christians polled were at 4% agreement whereas Muslims only 3% agreement. LOL... and you judge us?

It is interesting that you think I am a Christian. I'm not.

Can I ask you, did Muhammad lead a perfect life?

The Holy Prophet (saw) is without sin and did not commit mistakes or errors, HE (saw) is pure.

Click here for more information.

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So stop supporting your government in these wars if you do not agree! You elect your leaders!

reply to post by ollncasino

On the other hand, the poll of 254 Muslims has some statistical validity.

Yea, a sample of 0.0003% is really representative..should we put any faith in the Hindu (116) and Sikh (55) sample.

However, 14 people has no statistical validity what so ever (generally speaking you need at least 30 people in any sort of survey).

That answers that question then, btw, the total Christian sample was actually 43 (47 with weighting).

Its a strange poll olln, apparently 100% of Sikhs disagree with the statement: ' in certain circumstances, it can be right to hysically punish a female member of the family(Tbl 3; pg3) and yet 14% agree: 'there are some reasonable justifications for physicall punishment of female relatives' (Tbl4; pg4)

Lots of anomalies Olln, maybe there was an error in recording the data...or something.

Originally posted by Jameela
The Holy Prophet (saw) is without sin and did not commit mistakes or errors, HE (saw) is pure.

By the way, the Bukari is a religious Hadith text which is sacred to Sunni Muslims who make up 80 to 90% of all Muslims globally.

What are your views on this passage which is sacred to Sunni Muslims who make up 80 to 90% of all Muslims globally?

Bukhari (11:626) -

"The Prophet said, 'No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl.' The Prophet added, 'Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.'"

Muhammad orders his men to burn alive those who do not present themselves at the mosque for prayer.

www.quranexplorer.com...

What are your views on Muhammad ordering people burnt to death for not praying.

I do not accept ANY ahadith from bukhari and muslim.

try again.

Originally posted by Jameela
I do not accept ANY ahadith from bukhari and muslim.

try again.

So you are not a Sunni then.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Jameela
I do not accept ANY ahadith from bukhari and muslim.

try again.

So you are not a Sunni then.

No, I am 12 follower Shi'a

there was a recent thread on the same lines as this - thought I'd repost this link www.bbc.co.uk...which I found very informative.

Trouble with these kind of threads is that they very soon descend into name calling and most skip over the info offered.

Hey Ho

Originally posted by ironorchid
there was a recent thread on the same lines as this - thought I'd repost this link www.bbc.co.uk...which I found very informative.

Trouble with these kind of threads is that they very soon descend into name calling and most skip over the info offered.

Hey Ho

www.abovetopsecret.com...

^^^ honor killings are against Islam

www.abovetopsecret.com...

^^^ Honor killing predates both Islam and Christianity

www.abovetopsecret.com...

^^^^ Honor Killings are found in other cultures done by Christians also

This is a cultural thing, not religious. Indian Sikhs also do this so please don't mix it in with the religion.

Originally posted by Jameela
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So stop supporting your government in these wars if you do not agree! You elect your leaders!

ive never voted in my life
they are both sides of the same coin