'Honour' violence is acceptable, say one in five young British Asians, page 1


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reply posted on 25-3-2012 @ 04:54 AM by ollncasino
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Muslims carry out 91% of honour killings world wide


Although Sikhs and Hindus do sometimes commit such murders, honor killings, both worldwide and in the West, are mainly Muslim-on-Muslim crimes.

• In this study, worldwide, 91 percent of perpetrators were Muslims.

• In North America, most killers (84 percent) were Muslims, with only a few Sikhs and even fewer Hindus perpetrating honor killings.

• In Europe, Muslims comprised an even larger majority at 96 percent while Sikhs were a tiny percentage.

• In Muslim countries, obviously almost all the perpetrators were Muslims.

With only two exceptions, the victims were all members of the same religious group as their murderers.

www.meforum.org...


The vast majority of honour killings are carried out by Muslims killing other Muslims.


reply posted on 25-3-2012 @ 05:20 AM by mkgandhas
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miss wilson had sex with both the muzzies.Thats funny indeed.

Karma is a bitch you know .Comes to bite you in your rear.

Stung by Mr Hussein’s rejection of her and their child, Miss Wilson decided to confront the men’s families and tell them she had had sexual relations with both of them.
Detective Superintendent Mick Mason, now retired from South Yorkshire Police, believes this may have been the trigger for a plan to kill her.

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reply posted on 25-3-2012 @ 05:22 AM by ollncasino
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Apparently, according to this report, honour killings are only carried for 'Being too Westernised' and 'Sexual Impropriety'.

Worldwide -
• 'Being too Westernised' - 58%
• 'Sexual Impropriety' - 42%

North America -
• 'Being too Westernised' - 91%
• 'Sexual Impropriety' - 9%

Europe -
• 'Being too Westernised' - 71%
• 'Sexual Impropriety' - 29%

Muslim World -
• 'Being too Westernised' - 43%
• 'Sexual Impropriety' - 57%

www.meforum.org...


What is interesting is the number of Muslims being honour killed in the West for being too Westernised.

Strange that being Westernised is thought of as being a stain on a family's honour when the family has chosen to live in the West in the first place.


reply posted on 25-3-2012 @ 05:24 AM by mkgandhas
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when in rome be like a roman.You have allowed the wahabi muzzies to lord you so they will with sharia law.
enjoy.


reply posted on 25-3-2012 @ 06:56 AM by Freeborn
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so?


So it's ok to kill a woman just because she doesn't want to enter into an arranged marriage?
So it's ok to kill a woman just because she is attracted to someone of another faith or caste?
So it's ok to kill a woman just because she has been unfaithful?


Hasn't west been waging genocide on hundreds of millions and billions for centuries?


Exactly where is the relevance to the topic of this thread.
Classic deflection tactics.

Oh....and 'the east' has been just as guilty of committing genocide.
Do some research on the numerous genocides committed by the likes of Genghis Khan, Pol Pot, numerous Chinese Emperors and the atrocities committed by Mohammed himself and literally hundreds of people who have done the same in his name.
The list is quite a long one.
Think of some of the atrocities carried out in India, by Indians upon other Indians.


thing is that the biggest barbarians are the most noisy ones about 'human rights' in zones where massive natural resources exist.


I don't think Pakistan is known for it's over abundance of mineral wealth.
To be perfectly honest with you, as much as I despise honour killings there is nothing much I can do about going's on in Pakistan, India etc.other than express my disgust.
However, when this practice has been exported to my country and people living here express that in their opinion honour killings are justified then there is a damn sight more I can, and will, do about it!


reply posted on 25-3-2012 @ 07:10 AM by mkgandhas
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So it's ok to kill a woman just because she doesn't want to enter into an arranged marriage? So it's ok to kill a woman just because she is attracted to someone of another faith or caste? So it's ok to kill a woman just because she has been unfaithful?


depends on the local culture.When in rome be like a roman.Secondly you are allowing the wahabbis to climb on your back and transform your culture.Thats your problem not mine.

third,british empire was the most genocidal empire in history .Genghis khan was a choir boy with an estimated maximum toll of 120-150 million.British empire on the other hand mass murdered 1.8 billion in 200 years just in India. and we don't know how many hundreds of millions in Africa ,China etc. Spain mass murdered around 100 million natives of latin america. USA has mass murdered 100 million since its creation. Also hundreds of millions have been murdered by slavery ,starvation,war and genocide by the Western empires in the past few centuries.

Pakistan has one of the largest coal reserves in the world and also has an oil reserve of 5-10 billion if Adani co.,Chief minister Narendar Modi and Khoji exploration are right.


www.asiasentinel.com...
express.com.pk...


reply posted on 25-3-2012 @ 07:25 AM by davesmart
Originally posted by mkgandhas
reply to post by Freeborn




So it's ok to kill a woman just because she doesn't want to enter into an arranged marriage? So it's ok to kill a woman just because she is attracted to someone of another faith or caste? So it's ok to kill a woman just because she has been unfaithful?


depends on the local culture.When in rome be like a roman.Secondly you are allowing the wahabbis to climb on your back and transform your culture.Thats your problem not mine.

third,british empire was the most genocidal empire in history .Genghis khan was a choir boy with an estimated maximum toll of 120-150 million.British empire on the other hand mass murdered 1.8 billion in 200 years just in India. and we don't know how many hundreds of millions in Africa ,China etc. Spain mass murdered around 100 million natives of latin america. USA has mass murdered 100 million since its creation. Also hundreds of millions have been murdered by slavery ,starvation,war and genocide by the Western empires in the past few centuries.

Pakistan has one of the largest coal reserves in the world and also has an oil reserve of 5-10 billion if Adani co.,Chief minister Narendar Modi and Khoji exploration are right.


www.asiasentinel.com...
express.com.pk...



hya
i honestly do understand where your coming from
but you are still an outsider
i live it every day..
what we need to do is stop dwelling on the past
we are in the now
i can twist things with history for history is written by the winners
and as churchill said
"history shall be kind to me, for i intend to write it"
forget about the past but at the same time learn from the mistakes
u nor i are responsible for slavery and murder, and i will not apologise for my ancestors mistakes
keep this thread on topic plz folks
peace
dave


reply posted on 25-3-2012 @ 07:34 AM by Freeborn
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depends on the local culture.When in rome be like a roman.


Exactly.....this is about rural Pakistani's / Indians etc exporting this vile practice into my country.
So they should abide by the laws and customs of this country.
Honour killing is classed as murder in the UK.

So I ask again, is it ok for these people to committ honour killings in my country?

A simple yes or no should suffice.


Secondly you are allowing the wahabbis to climb on your back and transform your culture.Thats your problem not mine.


No we aren't, don't believe all you read in MSM.
Yes, we have a problem with Muslim extremists in some areas of the UK but they are hardly transforming our culture....yet.
Personally I feel we have to start addressing the problem of creeping Islamification sooner rather than later.


third,british empire was the most genocidal empire in history .Genghis khan was a choir boy with an estimated maximum toll of 120-150 million.British empire on the other hand mass murdered 1.8 billion in 200 years just in India.


This has been disproved so many times here on ATS it is truly ridiculous that you are still posting this bigotted nonsense and lies, it really does you no favours whatsoever.


Pakistan has one of the largest coal reserves in the world and also has an oil reserve of 5-10 billion if Adani co.,Chief minister Narendar Modi and Khoji exploration are right


Coal is so 1900's....and to be honest, we've got loads of it ourselves here in 'the west'.

5-10 billion barrels?

Chicken feed mate...we've got our eyes on around about 60billion barrels!


reply posted on 25-3-2012 @ 07:45 AM by mkgandhas
reply to post by ollncasino


disgusting that you are denying the largest genocide of world.

divide 1.8/200 you get a figure of nine million deaths a year.the extermination of indians was a slow process as british wanted to keep india under control.

after independence ,india's population exploded.
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