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Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by michaelbrux
or it could be for all men and women on earth
and some have subverted the knowledge to control and enslave others,
i like the idea that understanding the mysteries would allow to remove the barriors from our minds that self enslave us,
in that manner if one or many were to see the understanding,
as long as that information was shared without cost or predudise
then a long awaited raising in awareness would accour for all,
you may be such a person, anyone could be,
maby that is the lesson,
we all are that person and will be upon sharing the knowledge
i really like your thinking but canot give any specific answers
Joseph Smith also noted that this Kolob idea is "The measurement according to celestial time, which celestial time signifies one day to a cubit. One day in Kolob is equal to a thousand years according to the measurement of this earth..." Now what about this? When we remember that Joseph Smith was saying this in the 1830's there was literally no Egyoptology to speak of. In the late 1800's decades after Joseph Smith was dead, the professional surveyor, W.F. Petrie found that the Egyptian cubit of 29.161 inches was found from a swinging pendulum which swung 100,000 times in 24 hours in the latitude in which Memphis lies.36 Now then we see that Joseph Smith said 1 day (notice this is time) and a cubit (this is space), Joseph Smith shows the relationship. The Egyptians make a cubit with relationship to the day. The Egyptians used an instrument called "merkhet" which is a stick with a plumb bob line.37 So Joseph Smith equates the number 1,000 to time and space, as the ancient Egyptians did! Most interestingly, the Egyptians took their measuring seriously, as we read "measuring rules were given a sacred meaning...the cubit rules...seem to be of the type used as sacred objects..."38 This idea of measurement to the ancient Egyptians was precisely what Joseph Smith said, namely, "the system of measures must have coordinated not only length, volume, and weight, but also time."39 What is absolutely incredible is that "the source of the Egyptian cubit and foot" relates directly here. "There are 86,400 seconds in a day of twenty four hours, or the time it takes the earth to revlolve on its axis. So the distance traveled by the earth at the equator in one second is exactly 1000 of Jomard's cubits." (My emphasis)40 Most interesting... There is that number 1,000 as Joseph Smith said. Now then, we read further that "The builders of the Great Pyramid gave its base a length corresponding to the distance the earth rotates in 1/2 a second. This makes the cubit and the foot doubly earth commensurate: the cubit was equal to 1/1000 of a second of time, the foot to 1/100 second of arc."41 We find Joseph Smith exactly correct in this aspect of Figure 1 also, "the ancient astronomers took the earth's daily rotation on its axis as a unit of time and made 1,000 cubits the distance traveled by the earth in a second of time."42 In the ancient Egyptian parlance, based on measurements, "there are 360,000 geographic feet in one degree."43 Divide that by 360 days for the Egyptian year, and you have 1,000. There it is again. And again, we note that "the speed of rotation of the vault of heaven is 1000 geographic cubits a second."44 Again, "Three qedet of 9 grams makes the Roman ounce of which 1000 makes the cube of the Egyptian foot of 300 millimeters." Again the 1000 pops its head up. We read further that "the ancients were concerned particularly with the speed of a point at the equator [as Joseph Smith said, from the measure of this earth] in terms of sidereal time. A minute of time (solar time) corresponds to the length of 15 minutes of degree of equator." This equivilance left them with, among other measures, "1 second (sidereal time) = 1000 cubits."45 Interestingly a minute of time = 100,000 Mycanaean feet, which gives us "second of time = 1000 Greek cubits."46 "The Egyptians counted a minute of arc as being 1000 brasses, or 1000 fathoms of 6 feet."47
Originally posted by brocket99
If you guys enjoyed this YOU HAVE TO watch The Code by Carl Munck. I watched this about 10 years ago and rarely ever see anyone mention it or refute it. Seriously amazing IMO, but I'd love some math folk to analyze and poker any holes if they can find them.
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Originally posted by oghamxx
Considered and dismissed in totality. Most of this made the rounds in the 70's and got great laughs. LLLLOL
Agreed. This kind of "pyramid number" garbage is just the worst. What it involves is a whole lot of fudging, finding coincidences to fit the fudged numbers, and being amazed at stuff simple geometry does automatically.
And the ultimate point is, what, exactly? That the Egyptians were somehow incredible alien/time traveling/supernatural somethings? If that's the case, why did their entire society collapse and get buried in the desert? I guess they didn't see that coming, huh?
Originally posted by oghamxx
Trying to refute the pyramid nonsense believers is pure casting pearls before swine.
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
Ok, this is probably going to be embarrassing... so... stand back...
Base of Khufu's pyramid (K): 230.4 meters (756 feet)
"while not in this video i have previously encountered a ratio given by the great pyramid,
draw a circle "within" the base of the great pyramid, touching the interior four sides of the pyramid,
and a corresponding circle "outside" the base of the great pyramid touching the four corners,
the difference in area between the two exactly = the speed of light in a vacuum,"
ok, so the first circle would have a radius of K/2, or 378 feet (115.2 meters)
and the area of a circle is Pi*r^2
So, the area of the smaller circle is: 448,883.325 feet^2 (41,692.2018 meters^2)
ok, now we need the area of the larger circle, as denoted byindicating that the radius of the outer circle is (K/2) / cosine(45 degrees) or:
"a corresponding circle "outside" the base of the great pyramid touching the four corners"
534.572727 feet (162.917402 meters)
Giving us a area of: 897,766.651 feet^2 (83,384.4031 meters^2)
ok, now the third part of the "Equation" states:
"the difference in area between the two exactly = the speed of light in a vacuum,"
So, let's check that, shall we?
First, in square feet: 897,766.651ft^2 - 448,883.325ft^2 = 448,883.326 ft^2
And next, in square meters: 83,384.4031m^2 - 41,692.2018m^2 = 41,692.2013m^2
Just for [snip]'s and giggles, let's redo the square feet equation into square inches: 64,639,198.9 square inches
Speed of light (approx) = 299,792,458 m / s
230.4m / 2 = 115.2m (radius of inner circle)
115.2m * ^2 = 162.9m (radius of outer circle)
2*pi*115.2m=723.82m (circumference of inner circle)
2*pi*162.9m=1023.64m (circumference of outer circle)
Me thinks it is a little close to the speed of light.