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Originally posted by cloudyday
I guess the efficiency of a rocket is very low at slow speeds, so why don't they build some sort catapult such as we use on aircraft carriers to accelerate the rocket? A shuttle launch cost almost $1 billion, so maybe spending $1 billion on a huge catapult to increase payload by 10% would pay back quickly?
(I'm sure there is a good reason they don't build a catapult; I'm just trying to understand what it is.)
Originally posted by Violater1
Originally posted by cloudyday
I guess the efficiency of a rocket is very low at slow speeds, so why don't they build some sort catapult such as we use on aircraft carriers to accelerate the rocket? A shuttle launch cost almost $1 billion, so maybe spending $1 billion on a huge catapult to increase payload by 10% would pay back quickly?
(I'm sure there is a good reason they don't build a catapult; I'm just trying to understand what it is.)
They cannot produce escape velocity.
Originally posted by Maslo
Because it is cheaper and simpler and proven technology to just make the propellant tanks a little bigger. Thus catapults dont make much sense unless the speed from catapult launch is at least several kilometers per second, as in StarTram concept or Launch Loop.edit on 24/3/12 by Maslo because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Aliensun
Oh, right. I forgot. No school today.
Originally posted by cloudyday
Can you explain the reason the speed must be several km/sec before it is cost effective? I'm sure the rocket efficiency doesn't improve much until the speed is several km/sec, but even if the catapult could save 5 seconds of fuel it might be quite a bit of extra payload mass. (I think about this whenever I watch a rocket creeping slowly off the launch pad.)
The other possibility I've wondered about is a giant balloon. Float the rocket as high as the balloon will go and then turn on the rocket for the remainder.
Again, I'm sure rocket launches are optimal design already. I'm just trying to understand why these ideas don't work.edit on 24-3-2012 by cloudyday because: (no reason given)edit on 24-3-2012 by cloudyday because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by cloudyday
Alot of missle systems use an initial kinetic force to propell it into the air before deploying its main thrusters. Of course the biggest and most epic fail for the initial concept of this was the PIAT use in ww2.