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300,000 oppose gay marriage in biggest petition since election

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posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 12:16 AM
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The fact that this is still even arguable is absolutely ridiculous to me. This is clearly a biological condition that is neither selected or chosen for. Shame on those that oppose.




posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:30 AM
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People are still going on and on about this...jeeze........

Why does two same gender people entering into a civil agreement, and calling it either a civil union or marriage cause some people to get their panties tied up in knots? What? How does this hamper, degrade, ruin, or even uphold what my wife and I have arranged between us that we call marriage?

There are far more important things to attend to in this world. Things like trying all of our best to ensure people are fed, clothed, sheltered and left alone to love one another and help each other.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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I would say that this issue is about the legal issues relating to the concept of mariage. There should be various legal ways to establish these among people. Many people are affronted by the idea of same sex marriage because the presentation of homosexuality as normal is in question. People should not be discriminated against for being abnormal. But they should not demand that others accept their idiosyncrasies as normal.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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A 'majority' - which this isn't - doesn't have the ethical right to vote against the happiness of the 'minority'.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:27 AM
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In a free country, I should be able to marry whomever or whatever I want. There is a guy marrying bacon on television. Why the hell should someone else decide who I can marry.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:31 AM
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Maybe the word marry or marriage can be replaced by something else, like Flifeige. How's that?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by kyred
Why does two same gender people entering into a civil agreement, and calling it either a civil union or marriage cause some people to get their panties tied up in knots?


Support gay marriage as long as you also support the social engineering of civil/legal documents refering to "Parent 1" and "Parent 2" rather than mother and father.

Not many people, even gays, would support that.

Look at what happened in Canada when the 2005 Civil Marriage Act was introduced.



Most notably, the state utterly overhauled the traditional language of the family, airbrushing from official documents terms such as "husband" and "wife" and even "mother" and "father"

Following the passing of the Civil Marriage Act, all official documentation and legislation was amended, erasing "husbands" and "wives".

And because same-sex couples primarily use reproductive technology to procreate, some Canadian legislation has been amended to replace the term "natural parent" with "legal parent".

Most strikingly, on birth certificates some Canadian provinces have replaced the term "father" and "mother" with "Parent 1" and "Parent 2".

The Telegraph


Parent 1 and Parent 2?

Is that what you support?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by Garfee
A 'majority' - which this isn't - doesn't have the ethical right to vote against the happiness of the 'minority'.


How about a minority of one?

Why can't one person's happiness over-ride the happiness of the majority?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:44 AM
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Originally posted by AdaptationNation
The fact that this is still even arguable is absolutely ridiculous to me. This is clearly a biological condition that is neither selected or chosen for. Shame on those that oppose.


Shame on those who oppose it?

An attitude like that isn't going to convince anyone to change their mind.

Sadly such a closed minded attitude is all too common amongst those who support gay marriage.

By the way, did you support mother, father, husband & wife being replaced in official/legal documents by parent 1, parent 2, spouse 1 and spouse 2?

That is what happened in Cananda when same sex marriages were allowed.

The Telegraph



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Garfee
A 'majority' - which this isn't - doesn't have the ethical right to vote against the happiness of the 'minority'.


How about a minority of one?

Why can't one person's happiness over-ride the happiness of the majority?


Not if it cruelty makes the 'majority' happy, no.




edit on 25-3-2012 by Garfee because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by Garfee
Not if it cruelty makes the 'majority' happy, no.


How do you define cruelty?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:29 AM
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Heterosexuality is a cancer upon the earth.


You only exist because of heterosexuals.
Remember that and don't forget it, ever.

Unless you're a product of a lab or something.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:40 AM
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In a democracy decisions are taken by majority, but it is imperative that minority's rights are not crushed.This petition has exactly the same purpose (to crush minority's right).If u have a problem with gay couple ignore them, but what two people (adults that is) have decided for their own lives and relationship is completely up to them. Shame on so called "developed" world. It just goes to show money doesn't give people basic civility and respect about how to live in a democracy.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by AdaptationNation
The fact that this is still even arguable is absolutely ridiculous to me. This is clearly a biological condition that is neither selected or chosen for. Shame on those that oppose.


How do you believe this to be a valid argument? Pedophiles claim they were born that way as well. But the same sex argument isn't about rights.What its about is acceptance they want there actions to be considered normal by society. I dont care what two consenting adults do however i do object to having to acknowledge someone is gay when i don't care!! Can we just get you a card saying i know your gay happy coming out of the closet.I figure that would save a lot of time then gay guys wouldn't have to remind everyone over and over. Well at least Lesbians aren't as annoying.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by imjustcurious242

In a democracy decisions are taken by majority, but it is imperative that minority's rights are not crushed.This petition has exactly the same purpose (to crush minority's right).If u have a problem with gay couple ignore them, but what two people (adults that is) have decided for their own lives and relationship is completely up to them.


Do you agree with the words 'mother', 'father', 'husband' & 'wife' being replaced in official/legal documents by parent 1, parent 2, spouse 1 and spouse 2?

That is what happened in Cananda when same sex marriages were allowed.

The Telegraph


Originally posted by imjustcurious242

Shame on so called "developed" world. It just goes to show money doesn't give people basic civility and respect about how to live in a democracy.


Shame on the developed world?

You aren't going to convince many people to support gay marriage with an attitude like that.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 04:52 AM
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Heterosexuality is a cancer upon the earth


With all due respect, that's just plain stupid.

Without heterosexuality there would be NO life on earth.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 05:10 AM
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Are you concerned the the vast majority of people in the UK don't really care about this? Most people seem to be concerned with more important issues in their own lives. What do you think the implications would be to British society if we allow gays to use the word mariage? How would my life be effected, as a straight white hetrosexual male?



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 05:12 AM
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Look I m from India, here I have seen how stupid decisions societies take in the name of religion and conservatism. Just because canadians did something stupid doesn't mean rest have to follow that. Just because u can;t figure out how to write a document doesn't mean u can take someones basic human right.Anyways point taken.



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by imjustcurious242

In a democracy decisions are taken by majority, but it is imperative that minority's rights are not crushed.This petition has exactly the same purpose (to crush minority's right).If u have a problem with gay couple ignore them, but what two people (adults that is) have decided for their own lives and relationship is completely up to them.


Do you agree with the words 'mother', 'father', 'husband' & 'wife' being replaced in official/legal documents by parent 1, parent 2, spouse 1 and spouse 2?

That is what happened in Cananda when same sex marriages were allowed.

The Telegraph


Originally posted by imjustcurious242

Shame on so called "developed" world. It just goes to show money doesn't give people basic civility and respect about how to live in a democracy.


Shame on the developed world?

You aren't going to convince many people to support gay marriage with an attitude like that.


what are those gay couple supposed to do. Beg???



posted on Mar, 25 2012 @ 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
What do you think the implications would be to British society if we allow gays to use the word mariage? How would my life be effected, as a straight white hetrosexual male?


If marriage is redefined, those who believe in traditional marriage will be sidelined. People's careers could be harmed, couples seeking to adopt or foster could be excluded, and schools would inevitably have to teach the new definition to children. If marriage is redefined once, what is to stop it being redefined to allow polygamy?

c4m.org.uk...



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