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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by spacedog1973
 


I dont have an avatar pertaining to this case.


Then I'm obviously not referring to you.




posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by andersensrm

Key words "for no good reason". THe reality of the situation is, you don't know that it was done without reason, none of us do, because we aren't privy to the information on the investigation into this matter.


Nope. We have more than enough information. Martin was doing nothing but walking down the street. There is no reason any of this had to happen. It all happened for NO REASON.


Is it murder no matter what the situation is? If you kill someone, no matter what the situation is, its murder, and therefore you should be locked up in prison, is that what you are trying to say????


Play hypothetical next time we do not have reality to deal with, mmmk?



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by cdesigns
There is an EYE WITNESS that was very close to them when all happened, he SAW and HEARD everything He was not busy calling 911 or hidding inside his condo, he saw everything. And backs everything that Zimmerman said it happened. All the other witnesses HEARD and SAW half of what happened. I'm a big man and I have screamed out of fear like a girl before, Zimmerman was the one screaming on the 911 tape and the EYE witness confirms this.


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Almost 100 pages and you have yet to name that witness and supply their account. There is not one witness in this entire thread so far that saw everything. Why are you hiding this little gem from us?
What was their name and what was their account of ALL THE EVENTS.

This witness would be the golden egg in all of this but something tells me you just imagined him.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:37 AM
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Funny because you replied to me.....rude much?



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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I cannot believe the arrogance of some of you people...to think you should be privy to the investigation...if this ever goes to trial they can't have everything out in the public...that's how jurors get swayed.

Oh...silly me that's what Uncle Al and the left want...I keep forgetting..they don't want a fair trial the just want revenge.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:40 AM
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Glad to elaborate. Now having been beaten up before I know that A nose bleeds pretty good. So the police get there and see whats what ok? then they collect the bloody clothes for evidence and let mr Zimmerman go to his house which is close AFTER the paramedics clean him up and prolly use liquid stiches on his head to seal the cut on the back of his head,which somehow got cut open,and since there is concrete near must have hit his head against while being pummeled by the youth. Zimmerman in the police report was wearing a red shirt at the time. When he walks in the Police station its BLUE. Simple deduction leads me to beleive he HAD TO CHANGE clothes,because the clothes he had on were seized. SO many people are not observing the clothes change its pitiful.


edit on 29-3-2012 by yuppa because: sentence had no use so removed one.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by spacedog1973
 


Funny because you replied to me.....rude much?


Did you read what I said? I was referring to people that support Zimmerman on shaky evidence. And how 'SOME' have avatars to support him.

Is it illegal or 'rude' to refer to others when replying to you? Please inform me of proper ettiqutte. I wouldn't want to make this mistake again.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
I cannot believe the arrogance of some of you people...to think you should be privy to the investigation...if this ever goes to trial they can't have everything out in the public...that's how jurors get swayed.

Oh...silly me that's what Uncle Al and the left want...I keep forgetting..they don't want a fair trial the just want revenge.


Who's uncle Al?

How is this a left right issue???

And revenge for what?
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posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:42 AM
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Al Sharpton who started this whole race thing around this tragedy.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by yuppa
reply to post by spacedog1973
 


Glad to elaborate. Now having been beaten up before I know that A nose bleeds pretty good. So the police get there and see whats what ok? then they collect the bloody clothes for evidence and let mr Zimmerman go to his house which is close AFTER the paramedics clean him up and prolly use liquid stiches on his head to seal the cut on the back of his head,which somehow got cut open,and since there is concrete near must have hit his head against while being pummeled by the youth. Zimmerman in the police report was wearing a red shirt at the time. When he walks in the Police station its BLUE. Simple deduction leads me to beleive he HAD TO CHANGE clothes,because the clothes he had on were seized. SO many people are not observing the clothes change its pitiful.


edit on 29-3-2012 by yuppa because: sentence had no use so removed one.


I'm sorry you have been beaten up before. But this does not make you an expert on being beaten up. Or maybe it does if you have been beaten up extensively on numerous occasions? Have you?

Anyway, since you seem to have the paranormal eye and seem to have seen these events take place although you weren;t there, perhaps you can let us know what the verdict will be at his trial.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 01:44 AM
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Your kidding me right...

The race baiting around this tragedy.....the whole reason we are talking about this one murder when this stuff happens everyday....the whole reason 6 threads were made on this issue. Revenge for Trayvon's death.
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posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by spacedog1973

Originally posted by yuppa
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edit on 29-3-2012 by yuppa because: sentence had no use so removed one.


I'm sorry you have been beaten up before. But this does not make you an expert on being beaten up. Or maybe it does if you have been beaten up extensively on numerous occasions? Have you?

Anyway, since you seem to have the paranormal eye and seem to have seen these events take place although you weren;t there, perhaps you can let us know what the verdict will be at his trial.


In high school i was assaulted alot because i walk like a duck and wear glasses if you must know. Its not paranormal. I just retain lots of information that no one really uses. In the police report Zimmerman was wearing a RED SHIRT correct? Now go back to the Video. DO YOU SEE HIM IN A RED SHIRT? The shirt is BLUE! Which means he CHANGED CLOTHES! ITS A BLOODY MIRACLE! Either he is a majician or they let him change clothes. The Cops keep bloody clothes if they feel it could be evidence.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 02:17 AM
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He was not wearing a shirt. The witness claims he was wearing a sweat shirt. Look at what he is wearing. That can easily be mistaken for a sweatshirt. Also, I don't think that letting you go home, change, and take a shower is standard procedure for, what should have been at the time, an investigation into the death of a child.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by yuppa
. In the police report Zimmerman was wearing a RED SHIRT correct? Now go back to the Video. DO YOU SEE HIM IN A RED SHIRT? The shirt is BLUE! Which means he CHANGED CLOTHES! ITS A BLOODY MIRACLE! Either he is a majician or they let him change clothes. The Cops keep bloody clothes if they feel it could be evidence.


Well here is what the eye witness says,

But one man's testimony could be key for the police.

"The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.


He said red sweater, it appears to me from the video
that zimmerman is in a red jacket and what looks like to me
a gray shirt. Is the red jacket the red sweater the eye witness is
talkng about?zimmerma
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posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by TsukiLunar
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He was not wearing a shirt. The witness claims he was wearing a sweat shirt. Look at what he is wearing. That can easily be mistaken for a sweatshirt. Also, I don't think that letting you go home, change, and take a shower is standard procedure for, what should have been at the time, an investigation into the death of a child.


Sorry RED SWEAT SHIRT. better? Anyway i do not think he got a shower. The paramedics are really good at cleaning up blood. They also applied liquid stiches to his head id wager too. Still he is wearing a diffrent color clothes when he comes in the station. They took his shirt as evidence he was wearing at the time and he was near to his house its not a stretch to say they escorted him to get another shirt after the paramedics cleaned him up. Not to mention to prevent getting anything into a open wound no matter how superficial.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
There is no reason to drag an innocent
man through that legal system..


You do not know he is innocent. You know he and his lawyer say he is innocent. That is all you know. You have no idea who made first contact. You do not. Now there was no reason to get out of his SUV. There was no reason to carry his gun on his watch. There was no reason to pursue Treyvon. But he did all of those things WITHOUT REASON. Because of his decisions, someone is dead and he does have to explain himself.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by libertytoall
What is wrong with the lunacy in this thread. IN FLORIDA it is perfectly legal when unable to flee an assailant to use deadly force even if the assailant is unarmed. Zimmerman was acting in self defense which can be corroborated by the police report, eye witness testimony, the 9/11 tapes, and forensic and medical examination. In other words Zimmerman COULD NOT MAKE THE STORY UP.. You can't bs forensic science.. Zimmerman had every right to defend himself and end this bullies life. How anyone can see this any differently is beyond comprehension..


Forensic evidence?
Oh yeah? What forensic evidence might you be referring to?
Everything in your post is BS.
There is nothing from one single witness or on any of the tapes that says Martin attacked Zimmerman. NOTHING.

I gotta see this forensic evidence.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by jedi_hamster
why do you?


I am not the one claiming things are facts because Zimmerman said so or John said so. That is not me. So what is it I am believing just because I have been told?


who says zimmerman attacked martin? you do? media do? new black panthers? martin's parents, because he was oh-so-innocent young gangsta, robbing jewelry and smoking weed?


So it is nothing but absolutes with you? Sorry but my mind is not so made up.


stop trolling already, it's getting boring.


Stop lying already it makes you all look stupid. There is a reason the 4 people pushing the exact same BS in this thread all keep getting exactly 4 stars per post. Now that is some trolling.



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by jedi_hamster
after loosing him, he was going back to his car. and guess what? martin attacked him. who's the psycho?


The only source for that is the thug with the criminal record and violent history who is trying to not go to prison for murder.
Give me one decent reason to believe it?

Now tell me why you just wrote it as if it were a fact when you know you are just going by what you have been told by the killer? What was my last question to you?



posted on Mar, 29 2012 @ 04:59 AM
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stalking someone after being told not to by legal officer implies intent , intent implies first degree murder...

when he chose to follow , he chose not to get away as the self defence law needs for it to become activated
He had plenty of opportunity to get away and chose to pursue , that isnt self defence in the law, do you understnd now?

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also something else i dont get , we are told he was underneath on grass in the struggle,yet it is said he had his head bashed on concrete?was he on the edge of the grass and pavement?
or was he on grass , or was he on concrete? or concrete and a wall as statement says? or as the ladies statemement says on the grass?

does any one have a overhead of the location approx?

reason for asking is that there doesnt seem to be any blood from if it was concrete his head was being hit into , OR grass stains on his jacket trousers etc?
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