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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, which described silver wedding bands and earrings with diamonds.mine.


www.miamiherald.com...=cpy

HMMMMM, I wonder were he got
all that bling bling, NOT HIS?
OF COURSE IT IS NOT HIS..!!
This shows that treyvon was a thief!
He was casing some apartments
thats what lil treyvon was doing.





And if that's the case, there is still zero justification for Zimmerman murdering him when he was told not to persue him by a dispatcher.
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Trayvon, who was a junior at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School, had never been arrested, police and the family have said. “We think everybody is trying to demonize him,” Crump said. No evidence ever surfaced that the jewelry was stolen. “Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti,” according to the report prepared by schools police. Read more here: www.miamiherald.com...#storylink=cpy


The jewelry wasn't found after he was killed either, so you have NO proof he was robbing that neighborhood based on that article, seems like u cherrypicked info. Your agenda is sad
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by LErickson
Nothing anyone has provided shows this to be the case for a known fact in any way.


Eye witness accounts, police reports, 911 calls,
all facts..
Another fact, had treyvon been in school
and not suspended for weed, he would of
never of been there that is fact.
Fact is eye witness accounts saw treyvon on top
of zimmerman. Which lines up with zimmermans
story and 911 calls, which is in the police report,

Which proves treyvon martin attacked zimmerman
was on top of him with zimmerman who is screaming
for help, with zimmerman bruised and beat up, then
the shot was fired and the threat was deleted.
SO, this OP, and the few people in this thread
sticking up for liberty posting the real eye witness accounts,
pictures of him, facts, evidence, we got a pretty damn good
case..Because it is the truth, and the truth always prevails
mmmmmmk?
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
...Then there is the evidence. The police report, which you can download, and which has been online for some time now, states clearly that Zimmerman's shirt was covered with grass on the back, and wet, showing he'd been on the ground, face up. It states he had injuries to the back of his head, and his face. Later we learn that his nose was broken, and now we know that the head wounds are because Martin was banging Zimmerman's head repeatedly into the sidewalk. Now, let's be perfectly logical here. Someone banging your head into pavement repeatedly can KILL YOU. Defending against this, with a gun if you happen to have one, is justified...


Doesn't really mean anything. You still don't know who was the assailant. If a gun wielding assailant attacks you you have every right to bang their head to the pavement as long as it takes to stop the threat of them shooting you.
So there's that... again...


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Again for the millionth time in this thread when are you going to admid that you are lying in your OP and repeatedly. Noone saw Martin attack. If he was on top of Zimmerman trying to disarm him that does not mean he was the one attacked. You are lying.
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
...Then there is the evidence. The police report, which you can download, and which has been online for some time now, states clearly that Zimmerman's shirt was covered with grass on the back, and wet, showing he'd been on the ground, face up. It states he had injuries to the back of his head, and his face. Later we learn that his nose was broken, and now we know that the head wounds are because Martin was banging Zimmerman's head repeatedly into the sidewalk. Now, let's be perfectly logical here. Someone banging your head into pavement repeatedly can KILL YOU. Defending against this, with a gun if you happen to have one, is justified...


Doesn't really mean anything. You still don't know who was the assailant. If a gun wielding assailant attacks you you have every right to bang their head to the pavement as long as it takes to stop the threat of them shooting you.
So there's that... again...


If Zimmerman attacked Martin, where are the wounds? Martin didn't have any injuries other than the gunshot wound and to his knuckles, from hitting Zimmerman. If the plan was simply to shoot, then there would have been no chance to fight back, and he would not have called 911 in the first place. I agree that IF someone pointed a gun at you, you would have a right to defend, but there isn't any evidence to indicate that's what happened. We have to set aside emotions, and look at the evidence. All of the evidence that we have so far indicates self defense, on the part of Zimmerman. All we can do, in fairness, is look at the facts. By law, a person has the right to defend their life.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by Freenrgy2
Unless you were there, none of you are qualified to pass judgement on either person. The facts need to be looked at objectively and fairly. This whole incident reeks of opportunism by those who profit from racial division: Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, even Obama.


...Hannity, Beck, Medved, Levin, Oreilly, Savage, Limbaugh.
Those people? Those are the people really enjoying the hell out of this and using it every night.


There is plenty of evidence to indicate that Trayvon was not as innocent as the MSM would have you believe.


What specifically in his past do you feel makes him deserve to get shot? Otherwise, what does his past matter? No one cares about Zimmerman's past.


And I can't speak to what motivated Zimmerman to go after Trayvon. Maybe he was acting on racial beliefs or maybe he was just investigating a suspicious person in a gated community.


Two is a little hard to believe unless you can explain what was suspicious about a kid walking down a street talking on his cell phone. No one has pointed that out to me yet.



However, I am appalled at the media circus and the HATE being spewed by various black leaders. I think Dr. King would roll over in his grave if he knew how some in the black community seize on opportunities like this in order to further their own agendas.


Like what? What specifically? It is usually not to hard to get me to be unhappy with Sharpton and his antics and yet, nothing I have heard from him fits what you say so can you please tell me what black leaders are upsetting you and what it is they are saying?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:37 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by LErickson
 


Doesn't matter who signed the law
The facts of this particular case are what matters...


Then why were you going off on Bush? You said he knew nothing about the law. I was just pointing out that he is the one that signed it. He does in fact know what law he is talking about, contrary to what you said.


I can no more say he is 100% innocent than you can say he is a murderer without all the facts in the case,


Why are you not making that point to the OP of this thread who is claiming he is innocent?



Which as civilians not involved we do not have the right or access to know at this time.


I see. So anyone that wants to say Zimmerman was attacked by a crack dealing gang member of multiple weights and statures is fine. You tell me I cannot have my opinion though?

Hmmmm...
Consider you advice heard.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:42 AM
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Everything about this story is fake. The phone call is hilarious, where the family hears screams. No emotion at all, ignore the fact a 17 year old kid got MURDERED outside your house!!! Judging by the yells...it would have been close in distance. Yet all we get is a monotone reaction.

Fake Fake Fake Gun Control Fake Fake Racism Fake Cracker Fake Fake BARACK OBAMA 2012 Fake Fake


I'm brainwashing you



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps
Again for the millionth time in this thread when are you going to admid that you are lying in your OP and repeatedly. Noone saw Martin attack. If he was on top of Zimmerman trying to disarm him that does not mThean he was the one attacked. You are lying.
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The eye witness, is not lying.
It is all in the police report.\

THE MSM is lying, the truth
ithey have aidded in adding
this race riot, now al sharpton,
jesse jackson, high profile
homies. The more people
that get upset by the false
MSM propaganda, and black authoritarian
logic, the lawyers now see $$$ signs,
sue make cash off this. ALL the evidence
adds up 1+1=2



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by jrod
 


No they cannot...each gated community sets up their own rules...many of them do not allow strangers in...I own a condo in one in Florida and no one can enter without the owner or wander around alone....each case is different and no one here knows the rules of that particular community.


I am going to ask for the 100th time where is the security checkpoint that Martin would have passed through?



And it is private property owned by someone....it is not just a public street.


No, he was walking on public property where he was no matter what you do at your retirement community.



It is the same as a private park, mall etc the owners are the "law" far as who is allowed to be there.


Those places all lock. Where was the lock that Martin bypassed?



This is America and we have private property rights, not every inch of land is common for anyone to use.

But not the right to walk down the street?
Who is the owner of the property he was walking on and I am going to want proof, not what you assume it is based on your entirely different situation with your old folks condo.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by popsmayhem
 


And just out in the news today, his school in Miami confirms he was suspended for possession of pot not tardiness.


Yeah, I saw that.
Now I feel really bad for thinking he did not deserve to get shot to death.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by psyclops777
the pictures that have been put up as Zimmerman are showing him as a adult ( and a prisoner looking one at that) hows that fair.


You cannot complain about that in this thread. The only people that have posted those pictures of Zimmerman in this thread are his supporters using them as avatars. Why don't you ask his supporters why they are promoting that image of him? Why don't you ask them why they are not using toddler pictures of Geroge?



Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by LErickson
 


As a matter of fact I do.


Then perhaps you could get a few things straight and stop repeating things that are not true? Just wondering.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Freenrgy2
 


Oh I agree 100%....just putting some "facts" out there....

The press has already convicted GZ...so I will continue to p,ay devil's advocate....

Now there are twitter messages from Martins brother claiming he may have assaulted a bus driver. This goes to his character and the possibility he did indeed jump GZ.


Why after all these pages have you refused to take George's background into consideration at least as well?
We know he has a VIOLENT history.
You are having a hard time finding violence in Treyvon's past.
Got George's school records?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink


Image from his my space page of his arm with tattoo , this was NO skinny kid.





Then why did you post pictures of a skinny kid?
Are your arms smaller around than that?
That kid is a toothpick no matter how much stolen jewelry he had last halloween.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by LErickson
That kid is a toothpick no matter how much stolen jewelry he had last halloween.


Well that tooth pick, knocked zimmerman
on the ground with a punch then continued
to beat and slam his head in the pavement
zimmerman is screaming for help help
it is on the 9 11 tape, zimmerman had to protect
himself from the agressor.

Treyvon Martin who was on top beating up the zimmerman guy, zimmerman was the one laying in the grass



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 04:38 AM
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UPDATE UPDATEUPDATEUPDATEUPDATEUPDATEUPDATEUPDATE
Zimmerman in Hiding, Fears for Life: His Lawyers

Attorney says he doesn't know where client is.ZIMMERMAN IN HIDING FEAR FOR HIS LIFE
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Zimmerman’s attorney went on to say his client is in hiding since the shooting February 26 and that he is well aware of death threats against him.

He also says Zimmerman's nose was broken and the back of his head injured --wounds Zimmerman told police he suffered when the unarmed teenager attacked him, although that aspect of the incident is under considerable dispute.
While Zimmerman’s attorney started defending his client publicly, Zimmerman himself remains nowhere to be seen or heard--except for the message he left on his neighbor’s telephone answering machine revealed on NBC’s Dateline.



Well the lynch mob is out
and the hang whitey/hispanic/zimmerman
They better be careful messing with him
he is a damn good shot. i'M SURE his
friends are too, and they are heavily armed.
Is this not America innocent until
proven guilty? How can these people
already convict this man IT is PURE BS
ZIMMERMAN A INNOCENT MAN
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by andersensrm

Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by popsmayhem


Not murder at all..
Self defense is not murder.


So you are deciding for the courts what the outcome is going to be?
The kid was murdered. Tell the Martins it was not murder.
Explain to them why their son is dead but he was not murdered.


So are you, you've already determined it was murder.


Self defense is a claim. Murder is a reality. This kid was shot to death for no good reason. What else should I call that?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:10 AM
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parents to attend capitol hill hearing
Parents of slain Florida teen to appear on Capitol Hill

On Tuesday, lawmakers take up the issue when the House Judiciary Committee holds a hearing on racial profiling and hate crimes. Martin's parents are expected to attend.

Ahead of the hearing, protesters plan to march to the White House demanding a federal investigation.


Well treyvons parents are seeing $$$ signs
This is just insane none of this was racially motivated.
THESE peopl are slanderous. zimmerman is a innocent man.
The race wars are getting started



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:22 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how people are so quick to pull the race card when a black person is killed. A mexican is killed and maybe the family and a few friends will come out to defend them. a white person is killed and same thing. But let it be a black person that is killed and right away it becomes a race Issue. You got people protesting in the streets calling for an innocent man to be prosecuted for defending himself then you got Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (both always looking for publicity and limelight in my oponion) and everyone else coming out saying he was shot and killed because he was black. It wasnt because he was black it was because he attacked someone. So quit trying to make something out of nothing and focus on something more important.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:24 AM
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Funny how that Miami Herald article cites no sources, no quotes for it's claims and there's tons of removed comments but plenty slandering TrAyvon. A critical thinker would recognize that for what it is.

The Smear Campaign Against Trayvon Martin

Why do you need this kid to be so demonized Pops?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by popsmayhem
 



Why do you need this kid to be so demonized Pops?



Why do you need this zimmerman guy to be so demonized kal?

He is getting more demonized then anyone here.
Lied about, slandered, it is injustice.
Zimmerman is innocentt-



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