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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by SpaceJ
Please, he was not looking for a fight. If he was looking for a fight he never would have ran. You run in the opposite direction when you want to fight a person? You do not know how Trayvon got on top of Zimmerman! You don't even know that he was.


He should of kept running
and never jumped on top of zimmerman


Again, you DO NOT KNOW that even happened. He was seen on him, not seen JUMPING on him.




posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Timing
What it seems like to me is that this guy Zimmerman was looking for a confirmation like this and Trayvon just happened to be the person that Zimmerman got to act out his fantasy on.



Well that is your opinion, your entitled to it..

The facts are though like the eye witness saw
a completly different story, one where he saw
zimmerman screaming for help, one where he saw
treyvon martin on top of zimmerman beating
his face in. The only fantasy was when trayvon
thought he was going to get his kicks off on
zimmerman... Had another thing coming
because you cant go around beating up people
for *looking at you the wrong way*
You attack me and jump on me because i looked at
you wrong i have every right to defend myself
with lethal force especially when I am in fear of my life..



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:02 PM
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He should of kept running and never jumped on top of zimmerman


Source for this?

Who's to say Martin didn't keep running? Zimmerman chased and jumped him and that's how the rumble started? No one can, just like no one can say that Martin jumped Zimmerman. No one but Martin and Zimmerman can say what happened for sure and one of them is dead.
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender

Originally posted by SpaceJ

Originally posted by rebellender

only thing I can figure is Martin ran strait off, giving Zimmerman reason to pursue.


edit on 24-3-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)


That's some logic right there. So if I see some creeper following me on my way home and run because he scares me I have just given him reason to follow me?


this wasnt a 12 year old eating candy and drinking tea. Why does a young man run who has done nothing. Argument can go both ways...its a shame you cant see there is no reason to any argument and not argue over any simple reason. Back at YOU


Because if you don't run apparently you will be murdered. Who said I didn't see a reason to question everything? I can see the point you're coming from and still think you are wrong.

This wasn't a 12 year old, yeah we know that, what is your point? What was it? Who was he? Why did he deserve to be followed? Why is wearing a hoodie wrong? How is spouting racial slurs and stereotypes okay, even if no death was involved?



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:06 PM
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by hapablab
Thank you Rebel for bringing back the steve mcqueen avatar.


that guy is ugly....I am not and he took a life justified or not its not my decision I dont have to facts. I made a point to over look race and the call Martin ,Martin not Treyvon and that he wasnt 4' 12 yr old but a young man 6'3" and 170lbs



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:13 PM
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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Zimmerman was not on his property, not in his home, he was safe in his car, he had a gun, and he murdered in cold blood a smaller unarmed teenage boy. I would put the bullet in his head myself if they would let me. The sooner we put him down the sooner he can start burning in hell.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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Someone from outside the US ask what is the crime rate in the US.

Here is my neck of the woods.

spotcrime.com...

Crime rate in Sanford,Florida

spotcrime.com...

Crime rate for Orlando,Florida

spotcrime.com...
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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nothing in my posts about a hoodie, move out and move on, you dont want to discuss anything. I am through beating my head against the wall with you



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by SpaceJ
 


nothing in my posts about a hoodie, move out and move on, you dont want to discuss anything. I am through beating my head against the wall with you


I am trying to discuss. I'm asking you what you mean by saying "he wasn't a 12 year old"?

You didn't have to say anything about the hoodie explicitly, it rings through your words.

Those of you who are supporting Zimmerman, how do you feel about the racial slur? Does it not matter?
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by SpaceJ
 


nothing in my posts about a hoodie, move out and move on, you dont want to discuss anything. I am through beating my head against the wall with you


Like I said before Rebel you take one point and use it to sidestep and legitimate claim.

Another knee-jerk reaction by you
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:21 PM
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Breezer: Just curious whether, after reading the OPs posts throughout this thread if you think he has a bias? If so then I am curious as to why you have failed to point this out?

Just a not that I am only on the 6th or 7th page of this thread...
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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suprise surprise the claim has origins straight from stormfront.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender

Originally posted by hapablab
Thank you Rebel for bringing back the steve mcqueen avatar.


that guy is ugly....I am not and he took a life justified or not its not my decision I dont have to facts. I made a point to over look race and the call Martin ,Martin not Treyvon and that he wasnt 4' 12 yr old but a young man 6'3" and 170lbs


I love that picture of Mcqueen!, but I agree with you, I didnt know that the picture they were showing all this time was almost 5 years old, I am shocked well not really, it's the msm, but yes I will call him Martin as well. also does he say "coon" on the phone with police, how does everyone know he said that. I think Im missing a big piece of this.
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by SpaceJ

Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by SpaceJ
 


nothing in my posts about a hoodie, move out and move on, you dont want to discuss anything. I am through beating my head against the wall with you


I am trying to discuss. I'm asking you what you mean by saying "he wasn't a 12 year old"?

You didn't have to say anything about the hoodie explicitly, it rings through your words.

Those of you who are supporting Zimmerman, how do you feel about the racial slur? Does it not matter?
edit on 3/24/2012 by SpaceJ because: (no reason given)


I have said all of the racial slurs every day I am human I am white I am a man, doesnt make me a racist. I dont sit infrom of Rev.Wright, or Al Sharpton, I didnt sit in front of Malcolm X or the man that had him killed Louis Farrakhan.

you people denying you have a race problem want to get a rope right now and hang Zimmerman. YOUR WORDS RING LOUD.

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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:34 PM
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He was on the phone with a 16-year-old girl, who says he talked to her about being followed by a strange man. She also says he thought that he'd escaped and was safe. But according to the timing of 911 calls, that man, George Zimmerman, shot and killed Martin just moments after she got off the line.

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So within that little time he was able to walk to the car and sneak up behind the guy, start a fight and get shot?


"Trayvon said, 'What are you following me for,' and the man said, 'What are you doing here.' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again, and he didn't answer the phone."


Trayvon's phone logs, also obtained exclusively by ABC News, show the conversation occurred five minutes before police first arrived on the scene.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender

Originally posted by SpaceJ

Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by SpaceJ
 


nothing in my posts about a hoodie, move out and move on, you dont want to discuss anything. I am through beating my head against the wall with you


I am trying to discuss. I'm asking you what you mean by saying "he wasn't a 12 year old"?

You didn't have to say anything about the hoodie explicitly, it rings through your words.

Those of you who are supporting Zimmerman, how do you feel about the racial slur? Does it not matter?
edit on 3/24/2012 by SpaceJ because: (no reason given)


I have said all of the racial slurs every day I am human I am white I am a man, doesnt make me a racist. I dont sit infrom of Rev.Wright, or Al Sharpton, I didnt sit in front of Malcolm X or the man that had him killed Louis Farrakhan.

you people denying you have a race problem want to get a rope right now and hang Zimmerman. You WORDS RING LOUD.


Well that's it then. That's why you feel you are hitting a wall with me. I have never used a racial slur in my life. There is no excuse.

I'm sorry but do not lump yourself in with me or other "humans" or "white men". If it doesn't make you racist then what does it make you? Just stupid and rude? Speak for humans when you actually learn some respect for life. Keep on being the problem.

And we have a race problem for wanting a murderer jailed? I haven't seen anyone mention anything race related as to why they want Zimmerman in jail. It's because he murdered. What are you even talking about?
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