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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:13 PM
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Map of the area...




Shows a little better perspective
of what we are dealing with
and shows where zimmerman
was attacked by martin returning
to the vehicle..




posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:14 PM
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If there were a number of break-ins surely the police must have gotten finger prints from some of the sites.
As there are implications that this kid was suspect; Are they making comparisons to those of Trayvon?
Do you think they have even thought of this?



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by Bullypulpit

We MUST be disarmed...and therefore on an equal level playing field


Criminals will not obey the law and remain disarmed. Guns are equalizers. Without guns, the stronger will without a doubt take advantage of the weaker.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
Map of the area...




Shows a little better perspective
of what we are dealing with
and shows where zimmerman
was attacked by martin returning
to the vehicle..

y
Where did this come from?

Will you respond to this at least?

EDIT: TinEye didn't have any other results, so I assume you made it with some knowledge as to where they were from records but don't point out neighbors houses for reference..........sure
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Edit2: making supper

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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Charmed707

Originally posted by Bullypulpit

We MUST be disarmed...and therefore on an equal level playing field


Criminals will not obey the law and remain disarmed. Guns are equalizers. Without guns, the stronger will without a doubt take advantage of the weaker.
Look I know this...this is the line of Uncle O and his masters



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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You'd have to be a moron to believe a guy 100lbs heavier than the victim had to use deadly force against a kid only armed with Skittles and a soft drink. Add to that the police chief trying to cover things up, and you realize this is nothing but a racist crime.

My guess is, Zimmerman has racist tendencies, saw a black kid...and then went after him even though the police told him not to. He probably tried to hold Trayvon, who then tried to make a run for it...which is NORMAL if a random guy with a gun stops you. Trayvon had a lot of adrenalin in his blood, and probably took the shot...just to then claim it was "self defence" after he realized what he did.


reg

posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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You know, the riots we had over here in England last year were set off after a unharmed black guy was shot dead by the police.. could it be that the powers that be are trying to stir things up to cause similar scenes in the U.S?

Just a thought



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
Map of the area...




Shows a little better perspective
of what we are dealing with
and shows where zimmerman
was attacked by martin returning
to the vehicle..


Come on now, you're all "exclusive!" and "smoking gun" and you choose to post a photo mapping a suggestion of what happened? No witness saw Martin come up from behind while Zimmerman was by his car, and no one saw who attacked who first, so why?



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by reg
You know, the riots we had over here in England last year were set off after a unharmed black guy was shot dead by the police.. could it be that the powers that be are trying to stir things up to cause similar scenes in the U.S?

Just a thought


DAMN right that could be happening!!

They would love a race riot right now
to get people to *look over there*
while they do something fishy



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:28 PM
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reply to post by SpaceJ
 


Facts don't matter...the black guy is obviously guilty


How else do you explain that the US has more prisoners than China...a country with 4 times more people, and often said to be draconic!!!???



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
You'd have to be a moron to believe a guy 100lbs heavier than the victim had to use deadly force against a kid only armed with Skittles and a soft drink. Add to that the police chief trying to cover things up, and you realize this is nothing but a racist crime.

My guess is, Zimmerman has racist tendencies, saw a black kid...and then went after him even though the police told him not to. He probably tried to hold Trayvon, who then tried to make a run for it...which is NORMAL if a random guy with a gun stops you. Trayvon had a lot of adrenalin in his blood, and probably took the shot...just to then claim it was "self defence" after he realized what he did.


second time your quote has Zimmerman a hundred lbs heavier, I guess you have a point

I am white 5'10" 238 12% body fat hit the gym keep an eye on things in the hoods I live in. If a guy with a gun stops me I back away and run. He will bet heavily I dont see him again without a piece, I am sure



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by SpaceJ
No witness saw Martin come up from behind while Zimmerman was by his car, and no one saw who attacked who first, so why?


The fact that zimmerman was attacked
is the only thing that matters..
The witness saw treyvon beating on
zimmerman. Zimmerman in self defense
and fear for his life shot him..

This is just a map not the smoking gun
as to we do not know how accurate the map
is but helps put things in perspective...

Did you read the OP... The key eye witness
is the smoking gun the MSM doesn't want you to know about
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:31 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by SpaceJ
 


Facts don't matter...the black guy is obviously guilty


How else do you explain that the US has more prisoners than China...a country with 4 times more people, and often said to be draconic!!!???

convictions on victimless crimes thats how you explain it



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by reg
You know, the riots we had over here in England last year were set off after a unharmed black guy was shot dead by the police.. could it be that the powers that be are trying to stir things up to cause similar scenes in the U.S?

Just a thought


you know what you might be on to something there, after seeing this I'm starting to wonder that myself




posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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I find it funny that your avatar is a mug shot of Zimmerman from 2005.


In 2005, a woman filed a petition for an injunction against Zimmerman, claiming that he came to her house and became violent when she told him to leave, the Orlando Sentinel reports. Zimmerman, 21 at the time, filed a petition of his own in response. Just a month before that, the paper reports, Zimmerman was at a bar near the University of Central Florida when a friend was arrested on suspicion of serving minors. Zimmerman became profane and pushed a law enforcement agent who tried to escort him away. He was arrested after a short struggle. That arrest had been reported previously.


news.yahoo.com...



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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That's the thing. Most people would either freeze when faced with a heavier guy having a gun, or run in panic. Very very few people would actually attack a guy with a gun unless they are drunk.

So if Trayvon froze, Zimmerman had no reason to shoot. And if Trayvon ran, he also didn't have a legit reason.

So the only way he can somewhat justify it is if Trayvon attacked him...which makes NO SENSE whatsoever given what we know. Trayvon was smaller and a lot lighter, faced a heavier guy holding a gun. Realistically, does it make sense for Trayvon to go after Zimmerman? Like I said, I've been Thai boxing for years...but if I faced a guy with a gun, I would back down if I saw any way of getting out of it alive without a fight. To me it seems almost insane to suggest Trayvon went after that heavier guy with his gun.

And if he didn't, it's pretty clear that this isn't a case of self defence. Add to that the police tapes with Zimmerman's racial slur, and the fact that the racist police chief has skeletons in his closet...and well, it just seems waaaay more logical to assume Zimmerman was pumped up on adrenalin and simply spazzed out. # happens, and it's incredibly sad...but it's even sadder to pretend the illogical explanation (Trayvon somehow threatened Zimmerman's life) makes any sense.

By the way, even if there was a fight or struggle between Trayvon and Zimmerman...that still isn't enough to make this self defence. We don't know under what circumstances this struggle happened. Trayvon could have simply thought this was a hold up, we don't know how and if Zimmerman announced his intentions well enough.
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posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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Reminds me a lot of the Rodney King case, where the MSM didn't show the public the first 90 seconds of the video, because it was too 'fuzzy'. And, of course, it didn't promote racial hate. The Jury saw that first 90 seconds and accquided the cops based on the evidence. Then the blacks rioted and hurt a white trucker far worse than Rodney King was hurt. Then, the Jury accquided the black hitters and found the white cop supervisors quilty, mostly because they were afraid the blacks would riot again.
Manipulated white fear, as well as manipulated black, or minority fear seems to create, even describe the american mindset, the essence of the american way, or attitude.
Much of those same dynamics are in play here, in fact, have been in play since Whites first arrived on this continent.
If we could ever realize that american's founding fathers and mothers weren't as brave as we play them up to be, that we are immortalizing people that don't really deserve it, or if the MSM of the time reported the actual facts, maybe today's people would be a little more honest with each other.
When the ugly John Smith raped the 10 year old Pocohantus, and then later, have the event be reported as a great love story, and John Smith as a champion for indians...If that lie could be looked at for what it was, then we could possibly deal with it, and today's racial conflicts with intelligence and dignity.
When O.J.'s son, with the two butcher knifes he carried everywhere hacked up Nicole Brown Simpson, because he hated Nicole, thinking, wrongly, that she was responsible for his little brother's death, then O.J. came along and covered up the crime, destroyed the knife, then gave the bloody clothes to his buddy to destroy, then the MSM manipulated us all into thinking that O.J. did it. If we could just get a free press filled with people who looked at events with a non prejudiced eye, maybe we could all ' all get along', the way Rodney King suggested.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by SpaceJ
No witness saw Martin come up from behind while Zimmerman was by his car, and no one saw who attacked who first, so why?


The fact that zimmerman was attacked
is the only thing that matters..
The witness saw treyvon beating on
zimmerman. Zimmerman in self defense
and fear for his life shot him..

This is just a map not the smoking gun
as to we do not know how accurate the map
is but helps put things in perspective...

Did you read the OP... The key eye witness
is the smoking gun the MSM doesn't want you to know about
edit on 24-3-2012 by popsmayhem because: (no reason given)


It doesn't help put anything into perspective because that is ONE witness against multiple witnesses. It has everything to do with the original post because it's demonstrating the integrity with which the OP judges fact and fiction.

The witness says they saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, it DOES NOT say who started it and you can't draw from that who is the aggressor. You can say Trayvon was fighting but you cannot accurately claim that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, no one knows that. The witness could have been looking as Trayvon attempted to fight back. The only smoking gun here is Zimmerman's.



posted on Mar, 24 2012 @ 07:38 PM
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edit on 24-3-2012 by popsmayhem because: (no reason given)



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