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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on May, 18 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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were you aware....

• George Zimmerman may have been profiling black males.

In the months before the Feb. 26 shooting, George Zimmerman called the police several times to report suspicious persons. In all of these calls, he identified the subject as a black male. The calls were made on August 3, 4, and 6, 2011; October 6, 2011; and Feb 12, 2012.

• George Zimmerman was accused of having racist views.

On Feb. 28, two days after the shooting, a woman who refused to identify herself called Sanford Police and told them Zimmerman had racist ideologies and was “fully capable of instigating a confrontation that could have escalated to the point of Zimmerman having to use deadly force,” as the evidence report put it. Investigator Bill Perkins recorded a portion of the conversation and it was placed on a compact disc and submitted as evidence. However, the information she gave has not been corroborated and police have not located anyone who will. They also still have not identified the woman.

Read more: newsfeed.time.com...




posted on May, 18 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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Are you implying that any of that somehow overrides his right to defend his life and limb from an attacker? I say it does not. A guy is on top of you beating on you, oblivious to your pleas for help, you have a right to do whatever in your power you have to make them stop.


edit on Fri, 18 May 2012 17:11:41 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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i am implying that the evidence is leaning to the fact that zim racially profiled and chased trayvon and his irresponsible actions led to trayvons death. he never should have exited his vehicle to follow and chase a person that was not committing a crime.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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So, if he was racist why did he care about the homeless black man? And I heard he called 9-1-1 a lot too, on all races of people he felt suspicious. I'm thinking that source is pushing a narrative.

And regardless of what people who 'refuse to identify themselves' say about his personal beliefs, what did Zimmerman do that was illegal and warranted having his head smashed into the ground?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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he chased and profiled trayvon. trayvon used stand your ground to defend himself.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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So you think stand your ground allows you to jump on top of somebody who you think is following you and smash their skull into the ground repeatedly?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by conspiracy nut
reply to post by 27jd
 


were you aware....

• George Zimmerman may have been profiling black males.

In the months before the Feb. 26 shooting, George Zimmerman called the police several times to report suspicious persons. In all of these calls, he identified the subject as a black male. The calls were made on August 3, 4, and 6, 2011; October 6, 2011; and Feb 12, 2012.


George Zimmerman's 9/11 call history from 8/04 through 2/12 has been available since mid-march, you can view all 47 of the individual event reports here, George-Zimmerman-s-911-Call-History, so you don't have to rely on being spoonfed the cherrypicked rehash your source is claiming as new and relevant.

The headline of your link just begs for someone's best monster truck announcer voice impersonation, don't you think?

"SUNDAY! SUNDAY!! SUNDAY!!! NEW TRAYVON MARTIN EVIDENCE: 10 THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW!!!
THIS WEEKEND ONLY!!!" ROBOSAURUS VS.TRUCKZILLA!! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!! SUNDAY!!!


Read more: newsfeed.time.com...

Since we are regurgitating last months news and pretending its new, were you aware the twin lakes community had experienced a rash of burglaries and property thefts by...wait for it... black males!!



A criminal justice student who aspired to become a judge, Zimmerman also concerned himself with the safety of his neighbors after a series of break-ins committed by young African-American men.

Though civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account.

"Let's talk about the elephant in the room. I'm black, OK?"
the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. "There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood," she said. "That's why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin."
George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting




• George Zimmerman was accused of having racist views.

On Feb. 28, two days after the shooting, a woman who refused to identify herself called Sanford Police and told them Zimmerman had racist ideologies and was “fully capable of instigating a confrontation that could have escalated to the point of Zimmerman having to use deadly force,” as the evidence report put it. Investigator Bill Perkins recorded a portion of the conversation and it was placed on a compact disc and submitted as evidence. However, the information she gave has not been corroborated and police have not located anyone who will. They also still have not identified the woman.

Read more: newsfeed.time.com...


That is the second or third time somebody has posted this, maybe you can give a coherent answer.

What possible significance do you think a partially recorded anonymous character smear left with a detective just as this case was evolving is going to have in establishing Zimmerman's character?

Although this could very well be an anonymous tip from a concerned citizen scared to be identified because they feared they would be next, what would you give for odds on the possibility the Feds might have better luck with their voice analysis were they to compare the voice in the call with voice samples taken from Martin's family/social circles?

That the now universally discounted accusations of a racial motivation were brought to the media by the Martin family (who thought he was white) and considering that none of the blacks in either Zimmerman's extended family or close social circle's consider him a racist, in fact they all say the opposite is true, the timing of the police report alledgeding racism is certainly coincidental.

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posted on May, 18 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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We KNOW Trayvon was invovled in illegal activity.
We KNOW Trayvon was on top of Martin.
We KNOW Zimmerman's face and head were injured.
We KNOW Trayvon had bruised knuckles.
We KNOW the gun was fired close enough to leave powder on Trayvon and Zimmerman.
We KNOW Trayvon had drugs in his sytem.
We KNOW people were there and heard Zimmerman shouting for help


Why are people still arguing otherwise?
edit on 18-5-2012 by Cavalier because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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Using your line of logic, that chick that got raped should have never gone out with out a male escort.....

So what if he profiled and attempted to follow someone in the neighborhood? That does not make it ok for tray to assault him. That does not change the fact that george may have been a bonehead, but trayvon committed a crime when he put his fist to george's nose, then continues to beat him while he was down. I believe that is called exessive force, when you continue to beat on someone who is no longer a threat. You put the threat down, then remove yourself from the situation, if you have any brains, or self defense training. And that is assuming that george had even pushed him, or grabbed him, which there is zero evidence of.


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posted on May, 18 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Cavalier
We KNOW Trayvon was invovled in illegal activity.
We KNOW Trayvon was on top of Martin.
We KNOW Zimmerman's face and head were injured.
We KNOW Trayvon had bruised knuckles.
We KNOW the gun was fired close enough to leave powder on Trayvon and Zimmerman.
We KNOW Trayvon had drugs in his sytem.
We KNOW people were there and heard Zimmerman shouting for help


Why are people still arguing otherwise?
edit on 18-5-2012 by Cavalier because: (no reason given)


They are blind
They are black panthers
They are Sharpton's puppets
They are hispanic haters
They are still hook on the 13 year old picture of Trayvon
They are anti-gun people
They are the MEDIA and need ratings, a simple self defense give no ratings, throw a little racism and WALLLLAAAA

There is not going to be ANY TRIAL on this trust me.

Zimmerman



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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More bad against Zimmerman, aparently he targeted a middle eastern coworker and made many racist remarks.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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Why does this thread always come to life when bad news about Trayvon comes to light but it gets so silent when bad news about Zimmerman comes out?
edit on 18-5-2012 by Resurected because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Resurected
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Why does this thread always come to life when bad news about Trayvon comes to light but it gets so silent when bad news about Zimmerman comes out?
edit on 18-5-2012 by Resurected because: (no reason given)


Post the content and source so there is something more to discuss than...


More bad against Zimmerman, aparently he targeted a middle eastern coworker and made many racist remarks.


Why do you believe it is bad news?

In what way do you feel the sourced information you are going to post would affect Zimmerman's legal situation?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by conspiracy nut
reply to post by 27jd
 


were you aware....

• George Zimmerman may have been profiling black males.

since when is profiling a bad word.

For instance:
women drivers tailgate more often than men
Old people are dangerous drivers
Children playing on sidewalks are at risk of causing an accident
Walmart meat cutters are kindergartners

now was it young black men that were burglarizing said neighborhood of George Zimmerman or old WHITE men on weightwatchers diets
cause:
edit on 18-5-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Resurected
More bad against Zimmerman, aparently he targeted a middle eastern coworker and made many racist remarks.


Oh, more BS hearsay
and things that have
nothing to do with the
case that is equivalent
to charactor assination
like treyvon was high
on thc and out of his mind
when he ambushed zimmerman.

Come on show us some REAL evidence.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Character assassination has been all they had from the getgo. No big surprise that now, when more evidence is released backing up george's testimony, that character assassination would get worse. Remember that way back when, they were calling george a liar, saying there was no proof that tray ever attacked george. Then when the enhanced video came out, oh it was only a scratch. Move the goalposts, and attack george's character has been what they been doing since the onset. Anyone with half a brain sees through that.
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posted on May, 18 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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Zimmerman's race issue history has everything to do with this case.. So far we have 2 testimonies and his myspace page that prove Zimmerman did have issues with race.
edit on 18-5-2012 by Resurected because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by Cavalier
We KNOW Trayvon was invovled in illegal activity.
We KNOW Trayvon was on top of Martin.
We KNOW Zimmerman's face and head were injured.
We KNOW Trayvon had bruised knuckles.
We KNOW the gun was fired close enough to leave powder on Trayvon and Zimmerman.
We KNOW Trayvon had drugs in his sytem.
We KNOW people were there and heard Zimmerman shouting for help


Why are people still arguing otherwise?
edit on 18-5-2012 by Cavalier because: (no reason given)


those are 7 things i had 10 lol i win!! seriously though if you read the link you would see there are some things in there that support zimmermans side. i showed an unbiased link and you guys obviously didnt read it because you all dismissed it as some kind of mein kampf propaganda

edit on 18-5-2012 by conspiracy nut because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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Profiles and stereotypes bad because people get them wrong.. Lets take the first one, women tailgate more then men..
www.onlinecolleges.net...

Wrong.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 11:07 PM
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ALL CAPS TO GET YOUR ATTENTION.

PERIOD.

THIS WAS TO START A RACE WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PERIOD.

DOZENS OF OTHERS HAVE BEEN KILLED AFTER THIS.

THINK


STOP THIS CRAP


BAN ME. FLAME ME - IDGAF



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