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reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:09 PM by TKDRL
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Both of their pasts are irrelevant by self defense laws. I have said as much a few times. The altercation, and what was going on is what matters. People aren't remembering their past while getting pummeled. They are in FoF mode, fighting for survival.


reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:16 PM by conspiracy nut
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the fact that trayvon had no wounds shows zimmerman wasnt fighting for his survival, he went straight for his gun and blasted trayvon, if he was fighting for his survival evidence will show he would have trays skin under his fingernails he would have bruised knuckles etc etc. zimmerman was tough enough to throw women around but not tough enough to throw tray off of him. he went straight for his gun and blasted tray. i dont know this for a fact but imo tray having absolutely no wounds shows zimmerman didnt even bother putting up a struggle, why fight back when u have hollow point bullets?? tough guy that zim was



reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:19 PM by TKDRL
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And it was his right to do so. He carried a gun for self defense, and used it for such. Exactly what they teach you to do in the self defense shooting classes. They don't teach you to try and fight first, as that would be a stupid idea. You don't go around fighting when you have a gun, it can be taken from you, then used on you. Not to mention used on other people afterwards.


reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:24 PM by TKDRL
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If zimmerman started the fight, there would be signs of that on tray, no? The medical report says there were wounds on his knuckles, but hot on his face.


reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:29 PM by PLASIFISK
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They also teach you not go looking for trouble.

I carry concealed and had an excellent class.

I carry to matche force with force. If im in a fist fight i use only fist. If ever i had to pull my pistol i would be out numbered and unable to escape. Thennnnn i would pull it. If i was fist to fist and losing and feared for my life i would pull it also. But not to kill, just to get out of the situation. No need to shoot an unarmed person just because im getting my azzz wooped. Thats called cowardous.


reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:34 PM by conspiracy nut
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i believe this info may have come out after the fact. we will not get to see the discovery and i am sure there is a ton of evidence in it that we do not know about.


reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:34 PM by PLASIFISK
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" if zimmerman started the fight, there would be signs of it on tray"

That makes no sense.

Tray only had bruises on his knuckles. Well i guess he was in a fight with zimmerman. That much is already known.

Your just talking to talk.

Lol


reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:36 PM by TKDRL
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The classes I took also told us that we are not allowed to pull our guns and not use them. It is a crime, brandishing a weapon or something like that, and would get your liscence revoked instantly. It probably varies state to state though.


reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:38 PM by TKDRL
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If zimmerman started the fight, tray would have signs of that on his face. Sounds logical to me, that if he was hit first, they would be able to tell as much at the autopsy. If they can pick up signs of a fight on his knuckles, than they should be able to pick up signs of fight on his face.


reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:44 PM by TKDRL
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Yeah, deedee said all the right things. Funny how she met with the family lawyer, before she came forward to the police though. Could she have been coached? I hope that is not the case, it would be a shame to see her used as a tool, then go down for perjury because of a slimey lawyer.


Also, here is the interview with his father. He says tray confronted george, not the other way around.
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reply posted on 16-5-2012 @ 12:51 PM by PLASIFISK
Originally posted by TKDRL
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If zimmerman started the fight, tray would have signs of that on his face. Sounds logical to me, that if he was hit first, they would be able to tell as much at the autopsy. If they can pick up signs of a fight on his knuckles, than they should be able to pick up signs of fight on his face.


Your assuming zim would have hit tray in the face first if he started the fight. Since we are assuming things here, if i went with the zim started the fight first. Im gonna assume he grabbed tray by the shirt and tray let him have it. I cant see zim walking up to tray, the two speaking and zim just swingging on tray. He was to cowardace for that in my opinion.

Yep. I think zim grabbed his shirt being supercop, and tray put his knuckles to zims face.

Which would the fight modenot flight mode.

However, zim had a plan B. His pistol! Which im sureif he didnt have it to begin with he wouldnthave taken his happy azz out and after trayto begin with.


Ehhhh cowards....... I hate them.
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