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Originally posted by pizzanazi75
reply to post by popsmayhem
What if Zimmerman went to grab Trayvons arm to detain him as he went to run? --- Zimmerman aggressor
Trayvon then pulls his elbow away, and being taller than Zimmerman elbows him in the nose? --- Travvon defending himself
Zimerman pursues Trayvon, Trayvon and Zimmerman both lose their footing and stumble to the ground. -- Scrapes on Zimmermans head
They struggle on the ground and zimmerman goes for his gun, gets it, shoots Trayvon.
Trayvon did not have to be the initial aggressor to leave injuries on Zimmerman. all the Zimmerman supporters just assume it must have happened the way Zimmerman said cuz he had a scratch on his head and some blood on his nose. Yes, that is one way it could have happened, but as I just have shown you there are other ways it could have happened that point to Trayvon being the defending his self.......I know in your world it just is not possible in any way for this to be true, but it makes more logical sense. Zimmerman initially called police on Trayvon, Zimmerman initially got out of his car and followed, Zimmerman initiated every thing prior to the murder, so what would make you think he didn't initiate the attack?
O’Mara says the bail amount may have been higher if the judge knew Zimmerman had raised $200,000.
how did zimmerman grab treyvon by the arm to initiate it if treyvon was running, which was what made zimmerman get out of the suv
Zimmerman could of never out run treyvon.
Zimmerman could not of caught up with treyvon and try to detain him, treyvon ambushed him when zimmerman came around the corner
Originally posted by pizzanazi75
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
He was charged with 2nd degree because the prosecutor believes she has enough evidence to prove that, if a jury thinks she doesn't have enough to prove that BUT she does have enough to prove, say, manslaughter or negligent homicide they can convict on that. She most likely has enough for 2nd degree, if she doesn't she has an abundance to prove manslaughter or negligent homicide.
Generally, prosecutors will charge a suspect with the highest charge they believe they can get a conviction with. Lesser offenses in the hierarchy are generally understood to be included automatically by most jurisdictions. Prosecutors can and often will request that lesser included offenses be included in the jury instructions so that jurors have the opportunity to choose a lesser offense should they not be convinced of the top charge. This means that should the jury fail to convict on second-degree murder, they could still convict on a lesser charge such as manslaughter.
It's you that has no idea what they are talking about.. ever.
Generally, prosecutors will charge a suspect with the highest charge they believe they can get a conviction with. Lesser offenses in the hierarchy are generally understood to be included automatically by most jurisdictions. Prosecutors can and often will request that lesser included offenses be included in the jury instructions so that jurors have the opportunity to choose a lesser offense should they not be convinced of the top charge. This means that should the jury fail to convict on second-degree murder, they could still convict on a lesser charge such as manslaughter.
Wow ..... you are just completely ignorant.