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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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reply to post by dragonridr
 


Yes they are sealed, please call them up and ask, ask if those types of records are sealed, ask if they released Martins to any media, ask if they ever had a police report on Martin. They'll answer you.




posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:31 PM
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If someones on treyvons side or
zimmermans we can all agree
there was a HUGE conspiracy by
the MSM covering things up,
misreporting things, lies,
all this involved the POTUS
biden, holder, al sharpton, jesse jackson,
all in on this, and even the zimmerman side
has had its fair share of.
Right now as it stand, the info, we know,
there is not enough evidence to prove
zimmerman was not acting in self defense.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by dragonridr
 


Yes they are sealed, please call them up and ask, ask if those types of records are sealed, ask if they released Martins to any media, ask if they ever had a police report on Martin. They'll answer you.


Florida has a public records law. They define "public record" as any record "made or received
in connection with the official business of any public body," the Legislature went even
further in section 119.011 (12), Florida Statutes (2008). This means the press just needs to ask for his records. People assume there records are private reality is there not. The only thing thats hard to get is medical records. Now did you go to law school if so i suggest you go to West Law before you guess on what the statutes say. If you wish to debate this further i can start putting up cases from the Florida supreme court if you like.

PS you cant call and get records by the way that is not how you get public records you may not know how it works but the press does.

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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
If someones on treyvons side or
zimmermans we can all agree
there was a HUGE conspiracy by
the MSM covering things up,
misreporting things, lies,
all this involved the POTUS
biden, holder, al sharpton, jesse jackson,
all in on this, and even the zimmerman side
has had its fair share of.
Right now as it stand, the info, we know,
there is not enough evidence to prove
zimmerman was not acting in self defense.


None of those people told me anything that was not true.
You on the other hand have 200 pages of lies and made up crap.

Interesting that you would lie to people not listening to the media and then try to tell them the media lied to them. I would ask you to explain what lies you think Biden was telling me but I know you do not respond to direct questions about facts.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by dragonridr

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by ButterCookie
 





1. It was not Martin screaming on the 9/11 call /Why would Zimmerman be on the phone with police while beating and then shooting Martin, knowing the call is being recorded?


It was not Zimmerman's 911 call that the screaming was heard on...



3. This neighborhood had several break-ins weeks prior to this incident/ Why was Martin's bookbag found with women's jewelery and a screwdriver shortly before this incident?


A better question would be is where did this information come from?
The Miami Herald claims they got the police report from the Miami School Police Dept.
Martin was a minor, records sealed...
The Miami School Police Dept denies it released any records should they have ever had such, they neither confirm or deny they have any record on Martin.
Also, if true it would mean Zimmerman tried, sentenced and executed Martin where he stood.
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School records are not sealed there public record this is why rich people send there kids to private school. And your right his screaming wasnt heard on his 911 call it was on the witness who screamed at Treyvon that he was calling the cops because he saw one guy beating the other one up. Contrary to the popular belief it very likely was Goerge screaming or they managed to switch clothes during the fight. As for voice analysis that they think is evidence under stress or duress voice analysis doesnt work.In fact a cold can make voice analysis inaccurate. But on the other hand an eye witness that can testify under oath will hold alot of weight with the judge.

To be honest from a strictly legal point of view there going to have to let George go. But this isnt strictly legal any more since the court of public opinion entered this. Believe it or not this is a case to watch because if the prosecution doesnt have something up there sleeve that hasnt been released.Goerge will go free this is why manslaughter charges should have been tried instead the state would have had a fifty fifty chance of proving that. And that would hinge on the fact if you could get a jury to believe he purposefully started the argument that lead to Trayvons death. Which still makes me wonder why they didnt somethings wrong here trust me.
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Your still wrong about which 911 call Trayvons screams for help were heard on before he was gunned down by zimmerman.....maybe you should try listening to all the calls. It was not the witness you think it was....it was a women speaking on the phone that the screams for help are heard on, not a male.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by LastProphet527

Trayvon was only 17, a juvenile, but he was black, and so white people only see that color. they don't see a kid. They only see their irrational prejudice fears.


All one needs to do is take notice of all the posts that attempt to "correct" people calling him a kid and reminding you he is really a thug. He is a thug, according to them, because of pictures they saw of another kid who was also black. No racists here though.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by LastProphet527

Trayvon was only 17, a juvenile, but he was black, and so white people only see that color. they don't see a kid. They only see their irrational prejudice fears.


All one needs to do is take notice of all the posts that attempt to "correct" people calling him a kid and reminding you he is really a thug. He is a thug, according to them, because of pictures they saw of another kid who was also black. No racists here though.


He wasnt a thug he was a typical 17 year old at that age we all try to act like a bad ass. It part of growing up the tragedy of this is usually someone shows your not as bad as you think and hopefully it doesnt involve a gun.The worst part of this is Treyvon died because he was a typical teenager.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


Pops has carried the cross that Z is innocent and now we found out what the course will be. Imagine you have a thread 2xx pages long and provoking much needed conversation on racial issues presumed dead and burried. I think popsmayhem needs an applause for giving many of us something to think about. Seriously
Thanks pops.
Reb
edit on 11-4-2012 by rebellender because: dang androids anyway


There is something that is not true in almost every single one of his posts.
I can only imagine the kind of people that hail liars as heroes are morally void or really stupid.
I guess I will just have to imagine.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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Oh yeah i forgot about the third one also on listening to it i had a theory as to who the screamer was.Provided i was willing to throw out the eye witness there was a young boy watching this as well and i wondered if it wasnt him screaming for help. But thats speculating the same thing i try to tell others not to do.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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Hey Pops,

2nd Degree murder. I guess not everyone is so CERTAIN of Zimmerman's innocence as you are.

PS- You still didn't answer ANY of my questions.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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The Justice Department is just buying time, temporarily, by charging Zimmerman. They have nothing to lose by charging him and everything to gain ...temporarily. The only reason they arrested Zimmerman and charged him was to shut all the "bruthas" up and calm them down. Just wait until the judge reviews the evidence in 3 or 4 weeks, and then based on the legal guidelines spelled out in the "Stand Your Ground" law, dismisses the charges. Oooo baby! The black community will go ballistic.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by steve95988
The Justice Department is just buying time, temporarily, by charging Zimmerman. They have nothing to lose by charging him and everything to gain ...temporarily. The only reason they arrested Zimmerman and charged him was to shut all the "bruthas" up and calm them down. Just wait until the judge reviews the evidence in 3 or 4 weeks, and then based on the legal guidelines spelled out in the "Stand Your Ground" law, dismisses the charges. Oooo baby! The black community will go ballistic.


I really really hope your wrong on this but i do fear the black panthers are way to involved in this to accept anything but a guilty verdict. And that seems unlikely with what the public's been told so far but who knows the state may have an ace up there sleeve will know in pretrial if it gets that far.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:14 PM
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What about this story? A white kid riding his bicycle home gets confronted by 3 black males and killed.

Murder

Where's the public outrage?



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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Call the Miami-Dade school police dept if you don't believe me.


(c) “Criminal intelligence information” and “criminal investigative information” shall not include: 1. The time, date, location, and nature of a reported crime. 2. The name, sex, age, and address of a person arrested or of the victim of a crime except as provided in s. 119.071(2)(h). 3. The time, date, and location of the incident and of the arrest. 4. The crime charged.


www.flsenate.gov...



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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If the killers tell them they shot him or killed him defending themselves and are let go on their word alone their will be outrage



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by dragonridr

Originally posted by steve95988
The Justice Department is just buying time, temporarily, by charging Zimmerman. They have nothing to lose by charging him and everything to gain ...temporarily. The only reason they arrested Zimmerman and charged him was to shut all the "bruthas" up and calm them down. Just wait until the judge reviews the evidence in 3 or 4 weeks, and then based on the legal guidelines spelled out in the "Stand Your Ground" law, dismisses the charges. Oooo baby! The black community will go ballistic.


I really really hope your wrong on this but i do fear the black panthers are way to involved in this to accept anything but a guilty verdict. And that seems unlikely with what the public's been told so far but who knows the state may have an ace up there sleeve will know in pretrial if it gets that far.


Im sick of hearing about the Black Panthers.......I just graduated from a Historically Black Colleg (HBC) in december. I took a few political science classes, and was usually the only white person in the room, if not building. When the New Black Panthers come up nobody in the class even knew they were still in exsistance. To black people the New Black Panthers are to Christians what Westboro Baptist Church is.

I challenge you to go out and ask the next100 black people you see....anywhere...and ask them if they support the New Black Panthers.....I bet at least 75 will laugh right in your face, and the other 25 wont know who the New Black Panthers are. Nobody takes the New Black Panthers serious except for Fox news. The New Black Panthers are a joke and the black community knows it.


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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by DerekJR321
Hey Pops,

2nd Degree murder. I guess not everyone is so CERTAIN of Zimmerman's innocence as you are.

PS- You still didn't answer ANY of my questions.



The whole point
was he is not a first degree
murderer...
YOU will not have his head..
No death penalty..
No one can have his head now
and that what my main concern
with all the crazyies calling for him
to get the death penalty and first degree murder..
Either way they now have a vey long and hard
process of proving anything...\

No grind jury indictment was the num. 1 win
and his not guilty verdict will be his num. 2



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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Per title of article you linked..

POLICE STILL SEEKING THE KILLERS



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by LastProphet527

Trayvon was only 17, a juvenile, but he was black, and so white people only see that color. they don't see a kid. They only see their irrational prejudice fears.


All one needs to do is take notice of all the posts that attempt to "correct" people calling him a kid and reminding you he is really a thug. He is a thug, according to them, because of pictures they saw of another kid who was also black. No racists here though.



‘LMAF STRAIGHT TO HELL‘,

A child with a pack of skittles… with a soft drink in his hand looking for his father…is a thug huh, loll, Like, which one was it, was it the skittles or the drink or the hood.

Oh, I forgot…the mental program huh.

His face book page…YAWN

HE WAS 6’2...YAWN

OH WAIT! He had tattoos and had a grill in his mouth, LMAF, LOL… WOW!

However, now I see why it was impervious for Jesus to die for your sins…loll’ blatantly obvious!

Thugs, cowards and police carry guns last time I checked.

I never ever never ever seen a thug in real life or in the movies take over a hood or sell drugs using some skittles and a soft drink. I just cannot fathom, understand, or acknowledge what you are saying...it is not clear what so ever.
Like, lmaf, did you know him personally or something to refer to him as a thug, HUH!



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:32 PM
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Your right its a very small organization only a couple of thousand members.However this group is able to attract a large turnout of non-members (some of whom "may not even realize what this group actually stands for") to its events by focusing on specific issues of local interest.And in doing so will cause people to act in ways that would under other circumstances never be considered. So to say they have no influence isnt true they can have a real negative impact on a situation. And if i was Zimmerman id be real concerned about that bounty as well add money on the table and people do stupid things.



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