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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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Im not racist at all, the fact is more black people kill black people than white people kill black people. When there are riots black people kill each other and destroy their own things. That is not racism that is cold hard facts my friend. Now I am not blaming them for it, they are as they wish to be and to hold that against them would be racist.




posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by hapablab

Originally posted by ker2010
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Will you say the same thing if the FBI says it was Trayvon crying for help?

hmmmm


no thats where you have me wrong, I do believe he guilty of something, i don't know the facts but I know he shouldn't of got out that car and that is the reason this happened and that poor boy is Dead, BUT the way the media spun this, how the black panthers can turn around and say kill whitey and nothing done about that, this woman should not come out and act like she is related to trayvon's family.


Yeah - but . . . . it most likely would not have gone to the media if that police dept did their job.

It only went to the media because Trayvon's parents couldn't get any answers or cooperation from the police dept.

Who is really responsible for this going to the Media? Shall we take a look at who runs and is involved in this particular police dept? And who Zimmerman's "judge" dad knows?

Who is really responsible for providing the kindling to Light the Match?



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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Id bet a million dollars anyone here whose child was shot and killed and they couldn't get answers from the authority's they would run to the media as well!!



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by DavidWillts
reply to post by godfather420
 


Im not racist at all, the fact is more black people kill black people than white people kill black people. When there are riots black people kill each other and destroy their own things. That is not racism that is cold hard facts my friend. Now I am not blaming them for it, they are as they wish to be and to hold that against them would be racist.


LOL. Thanks for proving my point.

Riots Worldwide

It's just been the blacks the whole time. Damn those colored people right? Please look at all of the riots that have taken place during history. Not just the ones you've payed attention to.
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by hapablab

Originally posted by ker2010
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Will you say the same thing if the FBI says it was Trayvon crying for help?

hmmmm


no thats where you have me wrong, I do believe he guilty of something, i don't know the facts but I know he shouldn't of got out that car and that is the reason this happened and that poor boy is Dead, BUT the way the media spun this, how the black panthers can turn around and say kill whitey and nothing done about that, this woman should not come out and act like she is related to trayvon's family.


Yeah - but . . . . it most likely would not have gone to the media if that police dept did their job.

It only went to the media because Trayvon's parents couldn't get any answers or cooperation from the police dept.

Who is really responsible for this going to the Media? Shall we take a look at who runs and is involved in this particular police dept? And who Zimmerman's "judge" dad knows?

Who is really responsible for providing the kindling to Light the Match?



so let me get this straight, you are blaming the police, the media for the actions that the new black panther party wants to now engage in? it is their fault that these people are calling for "anyone blonde hair blue or sometimes brown eyed Caucasians" to be killed? that is what they said on that video. No long should they practice peace because it hasn't got them anywhere it's time to kill white people, it says that too.

so since the police screwed up and the media screwed up its time to run havoc on another race?, by killing them?, Annee that's justifiable??



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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I don't think he's going to get off.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
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I don't think he's going to get off.


oh well the evidence says other wise



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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I don't know if he is either. That is just my opinion of what I think "might" happen. With the way this tragedy has been manipulated it so far it just seems fishy.

Thanks for your counter-thought tho lol.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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I get what you're saying, and I think the guy with the Zimmerman avatar also gets your shtick. Your thread is about the idea that we teach our kids to fight back, In Trayvon Martin's case he did, but the perpetrator, A deranged, lunatic, maniac man who did the following, somehow becomes the victim, the kid, in the equation. This because of some "deranged" right wing news outlets doing their usual dirty work. A reversal of roles orchestrated by "deranged" spin media doctors working hard within those news outlets.





TextYou have pointed out what we teach our kids is what Trayvon did exactly to a tee. Fight back. However some can't figure that out. They can't see it. the truth. Trayvon was a kid being stalked by an adult who set out to do him harm in the guise of playing the good guy, the candy man, the stereotypical child molesting clown, the neighborhood watching peeping tom.

Trayvon was only 17, a juvenile, but he was black, and so white people only see that color. they don't see a kid. They only see their irrational prejudice fears.

This thread is awesome. You made your symbolism quite clear to those who want to see.

LMAF
George Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin shooting, official says.
Thank god we wont see this stalker on the streets again stalking children.




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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Whats going to happen next
is he will have a bond hearing,
they will tell zimmerman what his
charges are and set a bond. They
can give him a bond or not. Up to judge
to set the bail.. His first appearance he does
not answer guilty or not guilty..He will make his plea
at the next hearing.. So this is what will be happening,
keeping everything zimmerman updated here stay tuned
to see what will happen next.

They WILL NOT get his head.


He can not get death penalty
or first degree
they can not have his head.
THEY will NOT get his head
that is justice.

A DAY FOR JUSTICE !!
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by hapablab

so let me get this straight, you are blaming the police, the media for the actions that the new black panther party wants to now engage in? it is their fault that these people are calling for "anyone blonde hair blue or sometimes brown eyed Caucasians" to be killed? that is what they said on that video. No long should they practice peace because it hasn't got them anywhere it's time to kill white people, it says that too.

so since the police screwed up and the media screwed up its time to run havoc on another race?, by killing them?, Annee that's justifiable??


Cherry picking my post - are you. Twisting it to fit your tunnel vision.

I post a logic based scenario.

And YOU go for the Whoopteedo Drama!


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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by DavidWillts
He will be charged with one count of being awesome in public


What did he do that was so awesome?
Even if it was self defense, he got out of his car with a gun an followed a kid home.


I hope your children get to experience such awesomeness someday.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by DavidWillts
He will be charged with one count of being awesome in public


What did he do that was so awesome?
Even if it was self defense, he got out of his car with a gun an followed a kid home.


I hope your children get to experience such awesomeness someday.

amen



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by dragonridr

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by cdesigns


He will be acquitted , even if they prosecutor looses this case, they prevent something worse to happened, they know what they are doing.


I'm not so sure he'll be acquitted - - because of the 2nd description of 2nd degree murder.

I do think he will get a lesser penalty then 2nd degree murder.


You wont be able to get 2nd degree murder thats why the state usually stacks up several charges. Thats why i expected to see manslaughter on the charges as well but there not there. This leaves 3 possibilities either the prosecutor is inept, Or she has some evidence she can use towards proving his state of mind either crazy or hatred, Or these charges were decided on knowing he can beat the charges.


I'm with you on saying that the special prosecutor only charged him with 2nd degree murder, KNOWING he can beat the charges...

this was done to calm the mobs down, have the trial, drop the charges (because it was in self defense) but then be able to say "We gave you justice: he was arrested, charged, and found not guilty of murder- Case closed"

After all, this is what the family and the mobs requested, right?



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by pizzanazi75

Originally posted by ButterCookie
WTF????????

I am disgusted...... no words


The United States Justice System disgust you? Why is that? I am genuinely curious.


Yes, if I cannot defend myself from someone who wants to take my life.

And it should disgust you too.

However, the system DOES allow self-defense. This case is high-profile, so decisions are being made to appease the crowd.
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by DavidWillts
He will be charged with one count of being awesome in public


What did he do that was so awesome?
Even if it was self defense, he got out of his car with a gun an followed a kid home.


I hope your children get to experience such awesomeness someday.


This is total self defense..

No one can prove he did not
act in self defense..

These charges a bogus...

They are charging him,



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Deranged74
Id bet a million dollars anyone here whose child was shot and killed and they couldn't get answers from the authority's they would run to the media as well!!


Accidents happen. It is sad..

If it is a true accident can you really
blame them and want their head?

That is just not fair.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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Do you really want to know what happens next? Now that hes been arrested he will go to whats called “first appearance” .The judge reads the charges to him advises of right to counsel and sets bond.

Then in 2 to 3 weeks is the arraignment this is where he states guilty or not guilty.Now in his case if hes realeased on bond he probably wont appear in person but instead will have his lawyer file a written plea. Here his attorney will file motion to dismiss on grounds of self defense.

This starts a pretrial evidentiary hearing on whether he is entitled to the immunity based on the law. here The defense must prove by “a preponderance of the evidence” (more likely than not) that Zimmerman was justified in using deadly force.If the judge finds the force was justifiable then the charges are dismissed and Zimmerman is immune from further criminal prosecution.If the judge decides his actions were not justifiable then it will move to pretrial.

In pretrial the lawyers will file motion after motion with the judge this will be the long part can easily take months.But this decides what evidences admissible and more importantly whats not. An example of this would be Travons school records defense would want them entered claiming state of mind and the prosecutor going to claim its irrelevant.

Then there's the trial Zimmerman is charged with murder in the second degree.Now burden of proof shifts to the state. Judging from the fact that 2nd degree murder you must prove the act was done from ill will, hatred, spite, or an evil intent, and is of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life. And trust me thats a high bar to meet. So the likely outcome would be hes found not guilty. This would effectively stop the state from further charges however there is one chance after this. The feds can charge him with a hate crime depending on the climate that the justice department may charge him. But Im leaning for not likely because i think the feds would already be prosecuting the case since its an election year.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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this trayvon martin case is so much in the media just to distract you from the lies obama and the rest of the elite are upto.BEWARE!!!



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by DavidWillts
reply to post by godfather420
 


Im not racist at all, the fact is more black people kill black people than white people kill black people. When there are riots black people kill each other and destroy their own things. That is not racism that is cold hard facts my friend. Now I am not blaming them for it, they are as they wish to be and to hold that against them would be racist.

Well since that
They have no priors on him they will have
to give him a bond. It could be
a 500,000 dollar bail or more
which he would have to pay 10% of it
so if it was 500,000 he would have to come up
50,000 dollars...



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