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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Monger

On that count, I agree with you. I don't personally believe the evidence is there for a first degree murder charge. But that doesn't mean a judge and jury couldn't hand down substancial jailtime if convicted. And lets face it - there's a pretty good chance he'll be convicted.


Maybe, maybe not
it all depends what kind of charge
it will be. THEY OVER charge him
i doubt they get anything.




posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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I called this WAY earlier in the thread. This is just for PR, they know the whole thing will get thrown out on appeal.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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Charges TBA at 6pm

We will know
what they decide to charge him
with at 6pm



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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So far local news are saying IT MIGHT or NOT be charged in 4 hours, Officials say that he probably will be charged with something if they have not already, but its not confirmed if they will charge him with something YET.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Maybe, maybe not
it all depends what kind of charge
it will be. THEY OVER charge him
i doubt they get anything.


Any sensible judge will convict him to avoid the obvious backlash of a not guilty verdict. I'm not saying that that's any version of 'justice' that I agree with. If the evidence, when examined and poked and prodded in a court of law says that Zim is in face innocent, and a jury finds that to be so, the so be it.

But everybody has their own level of respect for the letter of the law. Rioting is one thing, but this particular issue has become so emotionally charged that there could be an armed uprising, worst case scenario.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 01:51 PM
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i think we have known that he was not going to get charged w first degree murder. it takes a grand jury to try someone for that. zimbo if you are out there, cop a plea man save yourself, admit your guilt. it will save you a few years in the slammer!!!!



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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Any sensible judge will convict him to avoid the obvious backlash of a not guilty verdict.

Yeah, because that is how it works



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by conspiracy nut
reply to post by popsmayhem
 


i think we have known that he was not going to get charged w first degree murder. it takes a grand jury to try someone for that. zimbo if you are out there, cop a plea man save yourself, admit your guilt. it will save you a few years in the slammer!!!!


My worry was they tried
for his . in first degree charges..

this whole case has taken a lot out of me..



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by conspiracy nut
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i think we have known that he was not going to get charged w first degree murder. it takes a grand jury to try someone for that. zimbo if you are out there, cop a plea man save yourself, admit your guilt. it will save you a few years in the slammer!!!!


My worry was they tried
for his . in first degree charges..

this whole case has taken a lot out of me..


Why? Are you George Zimmerman??



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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My worry was that they were going to let him just walk away on his word with no solid evidence to back it up.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by DavidWillts


Any sensible judge will convict him to avoid the obvious backlash of a not guilty verdict.

Yeah, because that is how it works


I suggest you re-read my post. I'm aware thats not how it works, but you can't deny that the threat of a massive backlash wouldn't play heavy on a judge or jurors mind on the eve of the verdict.

One could argue that the same thing played a role in the OJ verdict.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by conspiracy nut
reply to post by popsmayhem
 


i think we have known that he was not going to get charged w first degree murder. it takes a grand jury to try someone for that. zimbo if you are out there, cop a plea man save yourself, admit your guilt. it will save you a few years in the slammer!!!!


My worry was they tried
for his . in first degree charges..

this whole case has taken a lot out of me..


Why? Are you George Zimmerman??


I stared this post because I have wondered the same thing...

Is Popsmayhem George Zimmerman? He is speaking out on the internet these days...

HOWEVER, I still side with Zimmerman and have always felt that he acted in self-defense,and I say that as a black woman.

The Florida state prosecutor caved in to all of the race-baiting and is only trying to prevent riots in my opinion, which is not real justice. The media nor any hate groups, rioting fears or backlash should NEVER play a role in justice.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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lol Dont try to play it off. Innocent means NO CHARGES



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by conspiracy nut
reply to post by popsmayhem
 


i think we have known that he was not going to get charged w first degree murder. it takes a grand jury to try someone for that. zimbo if you are out there, cop a plea man save yourself, admit your guilt. it will save you a few years in the slammer!!!!


My worry was they tried
for his . in first degree charges..

this whole case has taken a lot out of me..


WOW, pop, are U Zimmerman?

You make it sound so personal.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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What you feel and evidence are two different things, ive always felt he was a power hungry punk and he probably even knew the stand your ground law and maybe even baited Trayvon..

Stop with the excuses Z supporters



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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Pops has carried the cross that Z is innocent and now we found out what the course will be. Imagine you have a thread 2xx pages long and provoking much needed conversation on racial issues presumed dead and burried. I think popsmayhem needs an applause for giving many of us something to think about. Seriously
Thanks pops.
Reb
edit on 11-4-2012 by rebellender because: dang androids anyway



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


Pops has carried the cross that Z is innocent and now we fond out what the course will be. Imagine you have a thread 2xx pages long and provoking much needed conversation on racial issues presumed dead and hurried. I think popsmayhem needs an applause for giving many of us something to think about. Seriously
Thanks pops.
Reb


There is no doubt it took a lot of courage to stand your ground in such an unpopular topic, and take the licks pop has taken.

And yes, it is interesting, and a subject many don't want to, or are afraid to address.
edit on 033030p://bWednesday2012 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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Actually your right. Regardless on how you feel about Zimmerman's Guilt or Innocence,this topic has been in the spotlight,Nationally. These pages show,the dynamics of ATS,and that even here,amidst the Aliens,9/11,and Prophecy threads,we as a group have kept it civil.After Reading Springers thread,I have to say,that this thread has weathered the storm. Thanks goes to OP also.


edit on 11-4-2012 by sonnny1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
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Actually your right. Regardless on how you feel about Zimmerman's Guilt or Innocence,this topic has been in the spotlight,Nationally. These pages show,the dynamics of ATS,and that even here,amidst the Aliens,9/11,and Prophecy threads,we as a group have kept it civil.After Reading Springers thread,I have to say,that this thread has weathered the storm. Thanks goes to OP's also.



Well, I told my alien story a dozen times on here, I imagine people are tired of hearing it.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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george zimmerman has been taken into custody and they will be pressing charges and we will know what charge in about half an hour!! it has been confirmed by various sources by msnbc. its going to be very interesting..i say manslaughter.




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