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Originally posted by cyb3rR3v0luti0nary
reply to post by spacedog1973
I think you need to learn how the justice system works. He does not need to prove he feared for his life, the prosecution, if there is even a trial need to prove he did not. Innocent until proven guilty in the court of law in this country.
Originally posted by cyb3rR3v0luti0nary
reply to post by spacedog1973
Around here you get made fun of as a sissy if you try that wrestling around stuff. And hitting while someone is down is frowned upon, if there are bystanders, they will intervene at that point.
Originally posted by cyb3rR3v0luti0nary
reply to post by GhettoRice
These two only saw the aftermath:
This one didn't see a thing, she just heard some voices, and made some assumptions.
This one however, actually saw trayvon on top of zimmerman, beating him up.
Originally posted by cyb3rR3v0luti0nary
reply to post by spacedog1973
He does walk into court with the status of innocent. It is up to the prosecutor to convince the jury otherwise, if he cannot convince the jury beyond a shadow of a doubt, they must aquit. That is exactly how the criminal law system works. What are they teaching people in schools these days?
Originally posted by cyb3rR3v0luti0nary
reply to post by pizzanazi75
He ran inside and locked the door. That tells you he first went outside to see what the ruckus was about. When he saw the ruckus was some hooded psycho beating another guy up, he ran to call for help. Maybe if he had a gun, he woulda shot him instead,
Originally posted by cyb3rR3v0luti0nary
reply to post by spacedog1973
Only certain fighters fight that way in MMA, there are plenty of guys that would rather stand up and go toe to toe. Around here, you will be called a sissy, if you try to grab on or take it to the ground. Guess it must be a cultural thing.
Originally posted by popsmayhem
Say a cop is following you, checking you out
as you walk down the road, the cop then
comes over to you and says hey what are you doing?
Go swing on that cop, get on top of him and start
pounding his face in and see how fast he shoots you.
Even if the cop hit you first you better just stand down
because if you then get on top of him and start pounding
his face in he will and has every right to shoot you then in self defense
in fear for his life...
A person claiming self-defense must prove at trial that the self-defense was justified. Generally a person may use reasonable force when it appears reasonably necessary to prevent an impending injury. A person using force in self-defense should use only so much force as is required to repel the attack. Nondeadly force can be used to repel either a nondeadly attack or a deadly attack. Deadly force may be used to fend off an attacker who is using deadly force but may not be used to repel an attacker who is not using deadly force
A person who is the initial aggressor in a physical encounter may be able to claim self-defense if the tables turn in the course of the fight. Generally a person who was the aggressor may use nondeadly force if the victim resumes fighting after the original fight ended..
Originally posted by cyb3rR3v0luti0nary
reply to post by pizzanazi75
That's conjecture, and quite dishonest. Every time someone says something that don't fit into your view, you are gonna say the cops pushed them into it?
Here is another theory. The girl that saw nothing, but only heard it, thought it was trayvon screaming. They found out from the other witnesses, that it was in fact zimmerman screaming. They told the girl that to ease her mind, rather than to commit a huge coverup conspiracy? They were trying to ease her mind sound a lot more plausible than all the cops trying to cover up for zimmerman.edit on 8-4-2012 by cyb3rR3v0luti0nary because: (no reason given)