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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:14 AM
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Wrong. Trayvon did not have the right to jump the guy for walking behind him. That is offensive not defensive. Doesn't matter if he was the first to feel threatened, he was the first to have legitimate reason to fear for his life. That is what you aren't understanding I suppose.
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posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:16 AM
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Looking at the map of where the body ended up after being shot. Can you tell me what street sign George could even possibly have been checking?



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by LErickson
 


Wrong. Trayvon did not have the right to jump the guy for walking behind him.

Cool, go argue your strawman with the lion and the tin woodsman.

That is offensive not defensive. Doesn't matter if he was the first to feel threatened, he was the first to have legitimate reason to fear for his life.

What is this now?
Are you just making up things to argue about?
Like I said, Trayvon had a legitimate reason to fear for his life FIRST so he had a right to defend himself. You have a pronoun problem.

That is what you aren't understanding I suppose.
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And you have that English thing so none of us are perfect.



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by Bullypulpit
reply to post by CoherentlyConfused
 


Why did he have to be asked first?Why couldn't he make the first move...someone has to ?Thugs don't of course..goes against their man code..."I'm tough"and now he's dead where a simple little bending of the man code might have avoided much...I have to wonder how much across the country could be avoided by a little willing to give in first...but we all know that can't happen


I have to wonder how much across the country could be avoided if gun toting nutjobs did not get out in the rain and follow black kids around the neighborhood.
No, but you make more sense. Next time some guy with a gun is following me, if I do anything other than politely ask him what is going on I probably deserve to get shot.



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by Homedawg
What would it have hurt him to turn and say"excuse me Sir,I'm on the way to my Dad's house at so and do address..is there something wrong"?He might very well be alive now


Yep, I always tell the kids
"Never ever talk to strangers, unless it is a much bigger man with a gun, following you down a footpath at night in the rain. Then tell him who you are and where you live for no reason!"

Keepin the kids safe!



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:44 AM
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Here we go again...round 7 of the same stuff rehashed and regurgitated in a different form...next Tuesday folks,next Tuesday



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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No.. sorry he had more than one chance to escape. He had no reason to fear for his life yet. Zimmerman however had a legitimate reason



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:48 AM
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Yeah.. don't be ridiculous.
Maybe the most ignorant comment of the thread. Trayvon was no kid. He was a man. He was capable.



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by LErickson
 


Yeah.. don't be ridiculous.
Maybe the most ignorant comment of the thread. Trayvon was no kid. He was a man. He was capable.



He was 17 and 40 pounds underweight.
On what grounds are we judging him "a man?"



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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He was a full grown man. 40 lbs under weight? That is ridiculous and completely speculative on your part. He apparently had no qualms about starting a fight with another man.



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:56 AM
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In 1992 my partner was killed by a 15 yr old "kid" that wasn't even a 100 lbs...size does nothing for intent or ability...anyone that takes that line is a fool



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by LErickson
 


No.. sorry he had more than one chance to escape. He had no reason to fear for his life yet. Zimmerman however had a legitimate reason


If Zimmerman feared for his life, why didn't he wait for the cops????????


You know, a few nights ago we were discussing this, but upon reading this
I think you are not discussing this in good faith, at all. You have employed
too much biased "logic" to too many aspects on this to take your opinion
as one that is seeking the real truth of the matter.

A man with a car, who had contacted the police, got them to respond and
carrying a gun has nothing to fear from an unarmed person. The above
sentiment you have conveyed is just too much, seriously, why are you
even discussing it anymore? it seems to have become a religious belief
for you, not a question of thought and critical examination...
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posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by LErickson
 


No.. sorry he had more than one chance to escape. He had no reason to fear for his life yet. Zimmerman however had a legitimate reason


What are you talking about?
Zimmerman had far more chances to escape. In fact, he had the chance to let none of this happen. Actually, going by the tapes he had SEVERAL chances to PREVENT this all from happening.

So when I compare Martin's chances to escape that you just invented
to
Zimmerman's actual chances to prevent and escape that we know for a fact.
I know how I lean.
How do you know Martin ever had any chance to escape? Maybe he just kept walking until this big thug grabbed him.
Tell me how you know that did not happen.



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by LErickson
 


He was a full grown man. 40 lbs under weight? That is ridiculous and completely speculative on your part. He apparently had no qualms about starting a fight with another man.


Hair on the balls doesn't make someone a man, just sayin...

And how do you know he started the fight? This is where your religion kicks in,
so faithful in that box you have constructed...



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by LErickson
 


He was a full grown man.

How?
In most states, having sex with Martin would get an adult prison time. He cannot fight for his country, vote, buy porn, drive after 9pm, etc. How was he a full grown man?

40 lbs under weight? That is ridiculous and completely speculative on your part.

No, that is the fact of the matter given his height and weight.

He apparently had no qualms about starting a fight with another man.

Starting a fight? Now who is speculating?
I know what he weighed and how tall he was.
You have no clue who started what.



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by Bullypulpit
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In 1992 my partner was killed by a 15 yr old "kid" that wasn't even a 100 lbs...size does nothing for intent or ability...anyone that takes that line is a fool


Yep!

People with guns can kill just about anybody. That is why when they follow me around at night, I fear for my life. GREAT POINT!



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by LErickson
 


No.. sorry he had more than one chance to escape. He had no reason to fear for his life yet. Zimmerman however had a legitimate reason


What are you talking about?
Zimmerman had far more chances to escape. In fact, he had the chance to let none of this happen. Actually, going by the tapes he had SEVERAL chances to PREVENT this all from happening.

So when I compare Martin's chances to escape that you just invented
to
Zimmerman's actual chances to prevent and escape that we know for a fact.
I know how I lean.
How do you know Martin ever had any chance to escape? Maybe he just kept walking until this big thug grabbed him.
Tell me how you know that did not happen.


I don't think Gogo is in good faith, you might as well question religions teaching with a Jihadist or
Christian Solder
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posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 03:02 AM
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Hilarious to see you through out the word speculative.

Were you there when the incidentt occured?

Cheers
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posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by braindeadconservatives


I don't Gogo is in good faith, you might as well question religions teaching with a Jihadist or
Christian Solder


Which is definitely odd given his original stance in this thread. Something about it all seemed like phony skepticism which over 2 or 3 pages just switched to "I am convinced all the stuff the OP made up and added is true now so I change sides."

This thread has some very peculiar behavior. I wish I did not have as much better stuff to do right now as I did.



posted on Apr, 4 2012 @ 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by braindeadconservatives


I don't Gogo is in good faith, you might as well question religions teaching with a Jihadist or
Christian Solder


Which is definitely odd given his original stance in this thread. Something about it all seemed like phony skepticism which over 2 or 3 pages just switched to "I am convinced all the stuff the OP made up and added is true now so I change sides."

This thread has some very peculiar behavior. I wish I did not have as much better stuff to do right now as I did.


I have read things that defy all comprehension -

The worst thing though is that it seems like people are now starting to turn off their
brains to the wonderful world of logic.

What has replace logic seems to be a secondary form of prejudice/bias - it's not racism,
but it is similar in that it is blinding like racism. It is peculiar indeed.



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