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It wouldn't have mattered if Treyvon had called the cops.....
Zimmerman had already called 911 they were already on the way because of the 'suspicious' male call he called in....so even if Treyvon had called 911 Zimmerman never gave them the chance to show up....
so your logic fails there as well.....
treyvon did the only thing he could do...he screamed for his life and fought for his life....if anyone was 'standing their ground' in pure self defense it was Treyvon.
So again, I hope zimmerman is never following your child, because 911 wont be able to save them. and again you are just making things up implying treyvon attacked anyone ore tried to take anyones gun.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by pizzanazi75
. . . . you think its unheard of that he elbowed him to the nose?
Put this under Speculation - - but I'm gonna post it anyway.
I heard or read somewhere - - couple weeks ago - - that Zimmerman's nose was bleeding from a cut on the side - - not from the nose - - like a nose bleed.
I started first listening to this on Talk Radio - - before it was on ATS. So I can't really say where I heard or read it.
The man seemed to indicate he had first hand knowledge.
Speculation - - don't want anyone to jump to conclusions.
Originally posted by TruckDriver69
reply to post by pizzanazi75
Now you are just trying to provoke me into becoming a victim! I guarantee my narrow butt wouldn't last 5 minutes at 7 & Vandyke in Detroit. The difference between Tray and I is I know when to get the hell out of dodge. Poor kid should have been taught by better people. In this case he should have just kept walking. There is no shame in running or at least ignoring an idiot. Tray couldn't do either because he was taught by poor parents.
Originally posted by TruckDriver69
reply to post by pizzanazi75
Congratulations on your win! I hope it gives you pleasure as you lay your head on your pillow tonight. Far be it form me to point on the holes in your argument. If you are happy so am I!
1)False. I said I was calling you a bigot, but not based on the kids skin color.
Its not my fault that you cant comprehend what you read.
2)You have proven it yourself.
3)Correct. I have not said that. Does it make you mad to realize that this is yet another baseless ASSumption on your part?
Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused
reply to post by pizzanazi75
Imagine if Zimmerman simply rolled down his window and said to Trayvon, "Hi, you look lost. Can I help you find something?"
Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
reply to post by pizzanazi75
It wouldn't have mattered if Treyvon had called the cops.....
Sure about that?
Zimmerman had already called 911 they were already on the way because of the 'suspicious' male call he called in....so even if Treyvon had called 911 Zimmerman never gave them the chance to show up....
NO Treyvon went for zimmermans gun and zimmerman acted in self defense
so your logic fails there as well.....
WRONG
treyvon did the only thing he could do...he screamed for his life and fought for his life....if anyone was 'standing their ground' in pure self defense it was Treyvon.
So you were there or? Or this is your version of it?
This is the watered down version being spun by the MSM
So again, I hope zimmerman is never following your child, because 911 wont be able to save them. and again you are just making things up implying treyvon attacked anyone ore tried to take anyones gun.
I don't live anywhere near Florida. You are wrong about calling 911 and the police not being able to save anyone. I had someone try to murder me and they were arrested in my drive way with a loaded gun so no, the police stopped this from getting ugly. Just sayin, I am grateful to the police for that.I had a loaded Mossberg ready to defend myself and it was a matter of seconds to where it would have ended up with someone dead.edit on 2-4-2012 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TruckDriver69
reply to post by pizzanazi75
If I saw a couple of thug Ganst'a displaying the look and they came to my door I would be armed and ready. You don't come to my door looking like a gangster and not expect me to be ready to kill you. Again, social norms dictate we learn from others mistakes. Gansters are usually bad guys and they have a certain fashion sense about them that we know all too well. They are easy to spot and many have fallen prey to them.
Then again, if I was out and about, I would tend to steer clear if I could. I don't like gangsters and I don't like people who dress like gangsters. They are one in the same to me and are a danger to society.
Originally posted by TruckDriver69
reply to post by pizzanazi75
I seem like a coward! Hey, whatever helps get you through your twisted sense of right and wrong there pal.
You come to my door with that chip on your shoulder pizzanazi75 and see how much of a coward I am. Baring that, if I am out and about, I am a fairly polite guy even in the face of obvious bigotry displayed by some African Americans. I can communicate and work though the lack of understanding or I just walk away. Seems there is a huge lack of restraint by some "people" and in some "places" in America.
That's the difference though isn't it. Cultural norms dictate I am the king of my castle. Everywhere else I must assess the situation and act accordingly.Even at times, retreat because some "people" are not civilized. Walking away is not being a coward unless you live by gang rules. It sounds like you do?
I think you are the coward because you refuse to accept the reality of the world we live in. At least here, on your keyboard you are a tough guy. In the real world I think you are the real coward...
1.Yes I am sure about that.
Zimmerman had already called the cops...they had already been dispatched.
2.Treyvon calling them wouldn't have got them there any faster.
3. What source do you have that Treyvon went for Zimmermans gun?
Source or you are a liar.
Was you there or is this just your version of it?
I see what 4. I never said 911 couldn't save anyone.
You can't read.
I said if Zimmerman was following you kid he wouldn't let 911 arrive before he killed them.
Just like he didn't let 911 arrive before he killed Treyvon.
I am not surprised someone tried to murder you
Originally posted by TruckDriver69
Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
reply to post by pizzanazi75
1.Yes I am sure about that.
WOW
Zimmerman had already called the cops...they had already been dispatched.
If treyvon called the cops another cruiser may have been dispatched and reached him first. You have a poor understanding of how this works. Not only that if he was innocent and felt threatened this wold have helped show he was being stalked or followed by an unknown man
Think about it
2.Treyvon calling them wouldn't have got them there any faster.
Refer to mt first response
3. What source do you have that Treyvon went for Zimmermans gun?
Are you serious? DID YOU READ THE OP?
Source or you are a liar.
Was you there or is this just your version of it?
I see what you did there
I see what 4. I never said 911 couldn't save anyone.
You said if treyvon called 911 they would not have got there any faster hence 911 could not have saved anyone
You can't read.
You just typed you cant read
Nice try
I said if Zimmerman was following you kid he wouldn't let 911 arrive before he killed them.
How do you know that? So are you a mind reader? Why is it my kids being killed by zimmerman?
due WTF? That is just sick
Just like he didn't let 911 arrive before he killed Treyvon.
Treyvon alegedly went for his gun what part do you not understand?
I am not surprised someone tried to murder you
Oh that's nice , it was a female stalker fyi. You condone murder that makes sense
edit on 2-4-2012 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)edit on 2-4-2012 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TruckDriver69
reply to post by pizzanazi75
Oh come on, don't play the troll card! You can't just throw out the troll card because you don't agree with someone! That is exactly what Jesse or Al would do.. We don't agree with them and they throw out the race card.I guess calling someone a troll on the internet is just like calling some one a racist.Problem is, it no longer works!
Originally posted by TruckDriver69
reply to post by pizzanazi75
Actually I don't interact with the gansta black people you speak of. I interact with the black people who are just like me. We work for our living as opposed to taking from others. I don't have that rivalry with them and they don't have one with me. You can't stand the fact that there are people who actually work for a living and get along no matter what the race because in the end we see green and we want to prosper.
The real point here is and this is really the bottom line..., if this was black on black you would really care less because if you did you wouldn't have time to be posting here.There is a real genocide going on right outside your doorstep!
As far as you being right up if I did give you my address, your thuggish intent is crystal clear. We would have yet another tragedy on our hands because I would have to shoot your thug gansta butt.