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I understand where you're coming from, I really do. Furthermore, I would be all for non violent solutions. I have to agree with Stadtsmasher. I think we are well past the point of peaceful solutions. The ones in control do not share power, they do not share wealth. It's not in their interests. Are you going to protest? Ask them for what you want for society? Tell them what you want? When has any of it changed anything that really mattered? In no way do I claim to have all the answers, but I do know the ones in control are not giving it up peacefully.
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Stadtsmasher
I was with you up until the part of stringing them up.
We need to learn how to be assertive, to flex our collective muscles and motivate each other to get things done, be good watchdogs for the political systems, veto all the stuff we don't like, non violent. non participation and non obedience to crimes they pass off as laws, and yet at the same time, not growing those muscles that are so badly needed by all of us, and just reverting to caveman pounding and abuse to win, is failing the tests here.
Its not that way. We need to do what we all seem so uncomfortable doing, grow our effectiveness at working for common goals in our communities. And even forming new parties if needed.edit on 23-3-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)
Poverty is defined as a state of privation and a lack of necessities. It is also defined as the state of one who lacks a usual or socially acceptable amount of money or material possessions. According to the U.S. Census Bureau data released Tuesday September 13th, 2011, the nation's poverty rate rose to 15.1% (46.2 million) in 2010, up from 14.3% (approximately 43.6 million) in 2009 and to its highest level since 1993. In 2008, 13.2% (39.8 million) Americans lived in relative poverty. In 2000, the poverty rate for individuals was 12.2% and for families was 9.3%.
The government's definition of poverty is based on total income received. For example, the poverty level for 2011 was set at $22,350 (total yearly income) for a family of four. Most Americans (58.5%) will spend at least one year below the poverty line at some point between ages 25 and 75. There remains some controversy over whether the official poverty threshold over- or understates poverty.
Originally posted by RoScoLaz
because some are more equal than others.