"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." - Obama. What the MSM isn't telling you.

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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused



He was also commiting multiple federal crimes


He was? Like what and who says?


ID Theft
Drug Trafficking ( Cocaine, Marijuana)
Assualting a bus driver
Theft
Drug possesion ( Marijuana, resutling in a month long school suspension)
Probably breaking and entering

Source:
Hacked Facebook
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Cavalier

Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused



He was also commiting multiple federal crimes


He was? Like what and who says?


ID Theft
Drug Trafficking ( Cocaine, Marijuana)
Assualting a bus driver
Theft
Drug possesion ( Marijuana, resutling in a month long school suspension)
Probably breaking and entering

Source:
Hacked Facebook
edit on 27-3-2012 by Cavalier because: (no reason given)


Any credible sources to back up your claims? I did read about the empty bag that once contained marijuana that resulted in his suspension from school, so I believe that one. But you aren't really in possession of drugs if you don't actually have them in your possession.

I also read about the alleged backpack full of jewelry and a screwdriver.

Probably isn't the best word to use to back up your argument.

Not sure a "hacked" facebook that no longer exists counts as credible.

But...needless to say, absolutely none of this has anything to do with the events that transpired that evening.
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Martin himself was in possesion of 10 people's SS#, address, etc. Private messages between friends wanting to buy drugs; private messages between friends telling Martin the correct way to break into a house, and detailing a fight Martin had with a "snitch". The Facebook exist still.

It is relevant because it reveals the true character of the victim, strengthening Zimmerman's claim that Martin attacked him.
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:04 PM
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Well, until all these "facts" can be backed up with credible proof, I can't take them into consideration. Martin has no criminal record, just some wishy-washy school suspensions. I had a few of those back in my time.

You're free to take your information as you wish and if they help support your view, no matter how vague or factual they may be. That's your choice. I just hope you don't end up on a jury in a case like this some day.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused
Well, until all these "facts" can be backed up with credible proof, I can't take them into consideration. Martin has no criminal record, just some wishy-washy school suspensions. I had a few of those back in my time.

You're free to take your information as you wish and if they help support your view, no matter how vague or factual they may be. That's your choice. I just hope you don't end up on a jury in a case like this some day.


Credible proof, meaninng "until I hear them on MSNBC"?

Define credible. All of that came straight from the horse's mouth.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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My post was removed because it "was so far off topic we had no choice but to remove it." Quite frankly, I am completely amazed. OK. Let's try this again. Subtlty is often lost in an online environemnt, so let me walk you though this step by step. Apologies to those intelligent enough to get it in the first place without the need for this explanation.

1. This thread is titled, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." etc. All the pictures of Trayvon that the MSM is showing depict a good looking youngster, very handsome, not at all threatening, a terribly innocent young man who, the MSM would like us to believe, was guilty of nothing but Walking While Black. Is that a fair summary so far? News stories across the nation are taking this approach.

2. In fact, a more recent picture of Trayvon is like this one. (Now don't go away. There's more below the fold.)



Big tough guy, right? Not quite so innocent as the MSM portrayed. To show the irony here I posted the following picture (which was removed) as a way of highlighting the problem.



Now, you can't possibly tell me this is not on topic. It is EXACTLY on topic. The MSM is trying to portray this young man in all his sweet innocence, and as we are coming to find out, not only does he have a track record of crime, witnesses are portraying an entirely different encounter. The picture posted immediately above shows the irony of it. Once again, the MSM is pushing our emotional buttons by portraying this black man how he looked years ago, not how he looked a few days ago.

And here's Obama inserting his naive opinion into the mix when he has no idea what happened. This has incited rioting, Black "outrage" and the ususal nonsensical leftist rhetoric.

Rather than white on Black crime, a white man wantonly killing an innocent Black man, it turns out this is a Hispanic man defending himself. I say that's a topic worth discussing and not a visible part of the MSM narrative.

I do hope you get it now, Mods and whomever flagged the pic originally.
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Nope, sorry. None of that has any credible sources. We NEED evidence, not hearsay. Back up your claims with real verifiable evidence or DO NOT make them. It is as simple as that. You look very fooolish making claims that you cant back up.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Cavalier
reply to post by CoherentlyConfused
 


Martin himself was in possesion of 10 people's SS#, address, etc. Private messages between friends wanting to buy drugs; private messages between friends telling Martin the correct way to break into a house, and detailing a fight Martin had with a "snitch". The Facebook exist still.

It is relevant because it reveals the true character of the victim, strengthening Zimmerman's claim that Martin attacked him.
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Might as well give up. You could show them a video of Trayvon strangling kittens and they would still see that sweet little twelve year old in the initial photo released by the press.

They can't think past the very first shock story that the media presented them with, it is seared into their minds.

On one page they vehemently deny that the 'child' (future engineer
) was ever guilty of anything, then when told that he was suspended for tardiness.... Well, so what, all kids do that. When shown that he had pot in school, oh well, the bag was empty.... It's just pot. Now it is theft and violence, It's okay, just part of his culture.

It is sad what America has become.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Define credible


An official source. Police report, statement from the family, something somewhere that shows this stuff is true. An eyewitness of all this activity.

A "hacked" facebook account that no longer exists isn't credible enough for me, sorry.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:21 PM
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If you have a YouTube of him strangling kittens, please show it to me. That might change my mind quite fast.

But you don't have one, so your comment is pretty meaningless.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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statement from the family
What would be credible about a statement from the family. They were the ones that originally said that Trayvon was only suspended from school for.'tardiness'.

Yeah let's depend on them as a definition of credibility.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused
reply to post by butcherguy
 


If you have a YouTube of him strangling kittens, please show it to me. That might change my mind quite fast.

But you don't have one, so your comment is pretty meaningless.
Get past the kittens, you are the shining example of the type of person I spoke of in my post.
Thank you for exemplifying that.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:34 PM
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Why, because I'm asking for proof of something?

I'm not going to argue. All I can do is try and stick with the facts I know versus the various "facts" that are being tossed about. Is there a problem with that for some reason?



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to post by Cavalier
 


Nope, sorry. None of that has any credible sources. We NEED evidence, not hearsay. Back up your claims with real verifiable evidence or DO NOT make them. It is as simple as that. You look very fooolish making claims that you cant back up.


I didn't know Trayvon's own words were considered hearsay.

I made my claims; they were from Trayvon's Facebook that was hacked by a member of Anonymous.

The email and passwords are floating online -- I'm not going to post them, but go see for yourself.

Some people just can't be convinced.
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by MrWendal
 


Of course it's relevant...it goes to character...

Yes it goes to character but it is not relevant to the night of the shooting. Unless Zimmerman witnessed Martin committing a crime that Martin has shown a propensity towards committing- it is irrelevant in a criminal case. Zimmerman does not claim to see Martin selling drugs or breaking into a home. There is no evidence found on Martin's body to suggest that he was involved in any illegal activity to begin with that warranted Zimmerman's involvement. This is a point that goes straight to the heart of Zimmerman's argument.


The media is bringing out everything Zimmerman did or didnt do...


Not really. What I see the media bringing out is Zimmerman's past accounts in relation to previous calls as he was watching his neighborhood. That is relevant since at the time of the shooting, he was watching his neighborhood.


If Trayvon was a violent thug it needs to come out.


I agree this should come out. It would actually explain why Martin, when confronted with a fight or flee situation, would elect to fight.

And since Zimmerman was worried about thefts in the neighborhood, if Trayvon was a thief that helps Zimmermans defense should this go to trial.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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That's not a picture of Trayvon Martin. A bunch of pictures of young black males were put out by members of Stormfront stating they were recent pictures of him, along with a whole lot of other nonsense trying to smear the kid.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by schuyler
 


That's not a picture of Trayvon Martin. A bunch of pictures of young black males were put out by members of Stormfront stating they were recent pictures of him, along with a whole lot of other nonsense trying to smear the kid.


Nonsense such as whaaat?

Why would stormfront try to support a Hispanic?

But, that still doesn't matter because there are actuall pictures of himself that do a good job with his own smearing.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Which pictures are those?
I don't think they're doing it to support Zimmerman.
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posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Cavalier
 


Which pictures are those?


Obviously you have not checked the links I have posted. Or anybodys for that matter.

Go read up on them.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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Irony.





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