*Breaking - VID* St. Charles, Missouri candid confession of RIGGED county caucus against Ron Paul.

Let's send Bryan Spencer some presents..

www.PoopSenders.com

I really dont care to get involved in politics. However, we have a domestic enemy that is trying to undermine the process in which I would defend. Anyone got anything better at the moment? Didnt think so. Can it get worse after the public allows fraud in a Legal process?

Uhmmm, yeah, that is their final plan. Removing all voice and power from the People is their goal.

This true story comes to mind. The Battle of Athens Tennessee. The cause was voter fraud.

www.youtube.com...

This will continue and spread.

Originally posted by eLPresidente

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by NightGypsy

Originally posted by illuminatislave
Give it up. The only thing that Ron Paul's campaign has accomplished is the fact that the people who actually believed in this fraudulent political system will realize that they have been playing a losing game from the start

Spoken like a true "Illuminati slave."

At least you admit your weakness.

The true slaves are you Pauler nimrods, who still believe that voting for a fringe member of a corrupt political party will bring about change.

Of course the elections are rigged! Paul is a member of the GOP, a brought and paid for mouthpiece of the establishment. Why are you all acting #ing surprised?

You guys always contradict yourselves.

Yea, the bought and paid for mouthpiece of the establishment is the fringe candidate that the elites commit fraud against, even if it is their own.

Just stop...the straw grasping...it must stop...

Continuing to respond to illuminatislave is a waste of time. First, just look at his name. Second, look at his signature. He is one of those fringe ows nuts who wants to complain about how we need to bring down the system. Probably an anarchist. Also probably an Obama supporter or some other form of neo-socialist.

So. The best thing to do is ignore the troll.

Is it rigged? Sure, but that doesn't mean good people should lay down and despair. We can use their system against them. The days of the grand ol party are numbered. There are too many true conservatives awake today. Unfortunately the GOP has pretty much handed Obama the election with their shinnanigans. If we can survive the next 4 years 2016 should be interesting.

In the meantime I will continue to fight the good fight. I caucus for paul tomorrow and I will be bringing a video recording device. You bet.

Originally posted by Dionysus2112
WOW.......this should be on MSM but prolly wont like everything Paul related. This should be on everyone's FB and let it go viral.

What is even more disturbing is that the media should be all over this regardless of which candidate is affected. This is a complete removal of the curtain of fraud and bastardization of our political system. They should be all over this, exposing it. The people who perpetrated it should be run out of town on a rail. It should strike fear into those who plan to steal more elections. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuttt.....

No. They will do nothing. They don't want Paul and the fraud helps their preselected candidate so they will ignore it. One day this fraud will work against them and it will be too late for them to complain. It is short sighted. A legit political process benefits us all. Even if we disagree with the outcome.

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Who are you kidding? If there was no Ron Paul you'd throw your lot to either Newt "the Poot", the Mormon Messiah or "Pound Sand-torum" You know...I'm a old school Democrat from Missouri who supports Ron Paul, but i have to say i find it humorous that you are livid with Republican tactics. I knew at a early age that the only thing worse than a Democrat is a Republican. They are amoral, immoral, self-serving thugs who eat their own offspring. Now you see it too. Waging war on the working man was/is your downfall. If you disagree...be aware your brothers are destroying any chance of electing a man who has vision. Not only that, by backing the malcontents listed prior only gives Obama another four years.

Originally posted by eLPresidente

Originally posted by illuminatislave
Give it up. The only thing that Ron Paul's campaign has accomplished is the fact that the people who actually believed in this fraudulent political system will realize that they have been playing a losing game from the start

And what have you done?

What is your solution?

Lay down and take it because its all too much for you to handle?


It is one thing to claim, through the internet, the system is rigged (like you do) and it is another thing to actively expose it (like Ron Paul supporters do).


So you may continue hiding behind the computer screen like a true American Patriot while the fools take care of business.

edit on 23-3-2012 by eLPresidente because: (no reason given)

I didn't see or hear him say anywhere that the vote was rigged, nowhere, not once. I saw a lot of implying in the coloured comments, but he didn't say "the vote was rigged" or words to that effect anywhere in the film. What I did seem to hear was him saying he wanted all candidates to have an equal voice and for RP not to drown out or talk for so long the other candidates would not have an equal share of time.

Could you please tell me at what point in the film there is a clear and unambiguous statement that the vote was rigged? Nothing ambiguous, nothing that is then twisted around to say that - a clear statement which is what your OP suggests is there.

Thank you

if the people can't take the corrupted people out of the voting system it will not end good for Dr. RonPaul.

people, print out the faces of the scumbags who don't play by the rules and show the America who are in the pockets of the elite!

make their life hard to live because of what they have done, don't give up don't be a coward they screwed this country so bad it has affected so many other countries!

kay-o?

reply to post by Evil_Santa

If Ron Paul wouldn't stand a chance, then why is it that over 200 friends on my Facebook page (a mix of democrats and republicans, who were on different sides of the fence in '08) all have his support.

Because he's an internet meme...

Why is it that when i go into an online video game (MMORPG) that in the most populated areas i can say "VOTE RON PAUL!" and see 80% support for him?

Again, internet meme, don't you see where he has his support? On the internet, the same people that populate 4Chan's /b/, Stormfront, "the people of wall mart", and lolcatz (but mostly the people on /b/) are the same people that support Ron Paul. Not exactly the most well versed people in the world of politics.

He has a chance, but sheeple who buy into the GOP lies, like you, keep shooting that chance right in the middle of the head.

See, when you use the popular ad hominem attack of "sheeple" to belittle instead of using actual data to try and convince others that Paul is the right candidate, you do exactly the opposite of what you are trying to accomplish. When I read that, it doesn't make me think. "wow, this guy is intelligent and makes some good arguments, maybe his guy is the right guy for the job."

Instead, it makes me think. "What a tool, if this is the kind of person that Paul attracts, than he must not be a very good candidate. I don't seem to share a lot in common with this guy, in fact, he doesn't seem very tolerant of other viewpoints, perhaps Pual isn't tolerant of other viewpoints either."

See, I don't buy into the lies spread by the GOP, I don't buy the lies spread by the Democrats. To me, both parties have completely failed this country, Obama has completely failed this country. This country needs to move away from party lines, we need real independent people in Congress and the White House in order to really fix what's wrong in this country and not just promote a party agenda. But that's my own personal opinion.

But again, this is the internet, and my opinion is that Paul is just an internet meme, sure praising Paul on a message board like this will get you flags and stars in abundance. But I'm not the kind of person that just blindly follows some candidate because he's popular on the internet. Those that do, in my opinion are the real "sheeple".

Originally posted by eLPresidente

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by eLPresidente
reply to post by illuminatislave

 

Cowardly! yells the defeatist that has absolutely no solutions to the problems he is presenting.


Yes, the illuminati owns all so the only solution is to stay at home where it is safe, behind the great and secure computer screen. Nobody can get you now!

Defeatist?

I have not been defeated. I see through the lies and ignorance. Yet you continue to cling to your beloved system, hoping that an elderly man will change it to how you see fit!! Delusional!!!

Yes, you watched a few youtube videos now you are the illuminati expert. Gold certificate for you!

I'm not clinging to any system, and I don't expect any elderly man to change anything. Tangible change comes from the will of living-breathing people, how is that delusional thinking?

What is delusional is fearing a mysterious group that you can't even put a face to and thinking that they have any power over you.

Boo! the illuminati are coming!

What are you talking about? Are you ignorant? "Illuminati" is just apart of a SCREEN NAME. You don't want to face the truth about Ron Paul and this futile campaign, so you just want to attack something irrelevant. Carry on sir, go and hide underneath your blanket and pretend that change will come through voting in a rigged system.

Originally posted by freakjive

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Where did I call Paul a "bought and paid for mouthpiece of the establishment"?

Allow me..

No, really...

You can claim what you want about "how" you said it. It's right there for the world to see. Paul is a GOPer ATM. So, how can you argue that you never said it???

edit on 3/23/2012 by freakjive because: (no reason given)

I said that the GOP is a bought and paid for mouthpiece of the establishment, THE GOP.

Reading comprehension would do wonders for you.

This is just all being played right as they want to... Ron Paul is yet another puppet... And just like Obama, will get voted in, and everyone will be so "HAPPY" it happened... It will be glorious and yet, the same old same old will still happen. Promises will be broken, new promises to be broken will be made and yet everyone will cheer on and yes it will be a new good job full of promises to be broken.

I hope that you all read and mark my words. For if I am wrong I will state so in a post and be humiliated. By the way im not from the USA either, but all this people that stick to Ron Paul like glue, you have to realize that he obviously isn't some unique snowflake that magically happens to have come into existance... He is yet another loveable character ready to fill a slot that so many people want filled, and that needs replacing from the old face...

Those lovable slogans, such as Change will come!!! Change is here!, Change is NOW!.. They will be replaced with more loveable slogans... Now is change!! Here is Change!!! Come will change!

Oh there is a bunch of watery slogans there... Same slogans (reworded of course) but same bucket thats keeping them all nicely held in.

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If you are going to call someone a puppet you could at least back your statement up. Otherwise you just sound foolish.

There is absolutely nothing about his voting records that indicates he is a puppet.

Im sorry I offended you. Guess only time will tell, and prove me wrong or right.

Originally posted by blasphemusbudda
I vote we start tar &feathering these crooked people

and bring back the stocks and shame them in the public square

THAT is the best idea I've heard in a long time. When and where do we start? I'll bring the tar.
On topic, I'm sad to say this does not surprise me at all. They are afraid of Ron Paul and with good reason. He represents We The People, not a system of Screw The People.

End the federal reserve.
Remove the irs.
Reduce the size of government and spending.
Empty out offshore military bases and return the military personnel to american soil.
Reverse all laws of questionable constitutionality.
Switch the us monetary system back to commodity based system from a fiat system.
Restore the capitalist free market system.
Abolish the corporate financial contribution, involvement and its influence on government.


These are just a few highlights of the cosmo-politic rectification. Lets say the election system is not rigged and your ron paul is elected into office, or any person for that matter.

Can this be accomplished in four years? Or even eight years?
Will the congress fight these changes?
Will ron paul, as sitting president, have to bypass your congress in order to enact these changes? If so, how can bypassing the congress be constitutionally performed? Martial Law? Executive decree?

reply to post by freakjive


I am as big a Ron Paul fan as anyone, but I do understand the feelings of those people who have said to "Just give up." If the system is so corrupt that we can't do anything about it, then why try? I'm going to keep trying because of principle. But as JFK said: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."

Of course, the government/media/(typical American lifestyle) have made us all lazy cowards unwilling to actually fight for what we believe in. The only thing that's really prevented a violent revolution is that no person has stood up to lead such a revolution, and if they have tried they have been arrested/silenced before they could get the word out and gain enough support. But that's another discussion entirely.

People that were involved with manipulating the caucus should be prosecuted.

but will that ever happen?

Nope...

But I wish it would...

reply to post by eLPresidente

wow. this makes me want to get into politics, so i can NOT BE THIS GUY. it's pretty obvious he's all about crating rules to fit his agenda, which is not giving all candidates equal chance to be voted for.

Originally posted by Bakatono

Originally posted by Dionysus2112
WOW.......this should be on MSM but prolly wont like everything Paul related. This should be on everyone's FB and let it go viral.

What is even more disturbing is that the media should be all over this regardless of which candidate is affected. This is a complete removal of the curtain of fraud and bastardization of our political system. They should be all over this, exposing it. The people who perpetrated it should be run out of town on a rail. It should strike fear into those who plan to steal more elections. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuttt.....

No. They will do nothing. They don't want Paul and the fraud helps their preselected candidate so they will ignore it. One day this fraud will work against them and it will be too late for them to complain. It is short sighted. A legit political process benefits us all. Even if we disagree with the outcome.

sad but true. the media won't cover anything that will get them fired... or worse. in this day and age if a member of the media were to report something of this nature, they would most definitely lose their job, if not more. it's time to turn off the tv and time to start READING the news from as many sources as possible, not the ones owned by reuters, which is owned by the banksters. the worst part about this corrupt system is that if you stand up for what is right and true, you will most likely be MARTYR'd. which is better than the alternative in my opinion. I wish i could run for office, any office. hell. maybe i will, but the people that i hear complaining about this stuff all the time should too. IF EVERYONE WHO KNEW ABOUT THE CORRUPTION RAN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE AT THE SAME TIME AND DENIED THE LOBBYISTS, THE SYSTEM WOULD CHANGE. sorry for the caps, but i was "internet yelling" to make a point.

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You know, that is on thing I have honestly wondered about. Just because Ron Paul wants to accomplish those things doesn't mean that TPTB are going to let him. congress is worthless in my eyes and have only made things worse no matter who has been in office.

How would Ron Paul actually restore things to the way they are supposed to be? Of course, with all the power the executive branch has attained through all the previous executive orders and constitutional amendments, he could probably use the governments corruption against itself. He could, for instance, make some of the changes via executive order, though they would likely be challenged as invalid because they would be overstepping the bounds of what executive orders are supposed to be allowed to do (which is odd, since there is no solid provision for them in the constitution to begin with).

Is it possible that he could somehow have charges places against every crooked political figure currently running things and lock them all up (or execute them if they are deemed traitors)? Completely overhaul the current leadership and then make some real change.

I don't know how he'll do it, but I'd sure do my part to try and make it a reality. How can you legally and constitutionally change the government when it doesn't play by its own rules?

The declaration of Independence is clear about what we should do when the government becomes a tyrant and deprives us of our rights... "it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." Many state constitutions provide the citizens with exactly that right, to overthrow the government by whatever means are expedient should it use its power to deprive the people of their rights.

But anyway... what's going to happen? Only time will tell.