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Ability to spy on you through your tv now released.

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posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 01:38 PM
Heres a article from 2010 about how tv's will spy on you.

Heres a recent article where the CIA chief said they will spy on you through your dishwasher. He problt could not say tv becuse of national security.

And here is the new roll out of the Samsung TV that has all the features to spy on you. Cameras and microphones built into the tv just for that application. Did the CIA chief hint at this TV when he said dishwaher?

And then you throw in some spy tech that the governments been doing such as using TinyOS to crawl through any network to spy or sabotage infrastructure. Just check out the plugin for TinyOS OPnet. They can enter anything with TinyOS. Wirerless satellite radio computer networks of any kind. Perfect for TIA(Total Information Awareness).

And think you can be safe by just unplugging your devices from wirerless networks and any kind of communication cable? Think again. Your power lines can be used as a network cable. Just plugging in the wall can create a network connection.

And the ATX power supply in all computers is wired directly to the motherboard of your computer and communicates with it.

So I guess the new NSA building wil be for the new and improved spying systems that are rolling out now. They have a lot of new information to datamine in the near future.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 01:40 PM
I think we all saw this coming. The great Orwellian society pushes on.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 01:42 PM
reply to post by morningeagle

hi op
ive said this before
its been going on since the 70s
i would go as far as to say Phillips was the first to do this

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 01:52 PM
reply to post by davesmart

Because quartz crystals were used in almost every single electronic device made, you have "nametags" for your SIGNET. Now the push for a DARPA born networking to every device out there will open the doors to the craft.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 01:55 PM
the NSA are spooks and as such are scared of not knowing something such as which hand do you scratch your butt with and while it may seem like over kill it 'could' spot a terrorist leader using a decoy in theory

but anyway back to the plot

if you want to protect your equipment from possible and highly unlikely access via the powerline then you need to set up a system that properly isolates your houses electrical system from the outside which will probably require a large battery system with power conditioners and other sorts of electrical gizzmo's to ensure that nothing other than the clean power is transmitted on your side of the system

and if they want to spy on you using the tv/fridge/toaster just don't connect the item to the network and you could always import stuff from outside so that it doesn't know how to obey the NSA's command codes (just may need a few adapters)

but if you let them in they'll profile you quite easy since they'll know what time you come home due to the power usage going up, with NFC they could know your shopping habbits of what you put in the fridge/freezer and with your viewing habbits they get to know alot of your likes/dislikes and marry that up with your browsing history and other online sources that they have access too and it won't be much to think that even if you tried to go offline they'd be able to track you down due to knowning that before every major game your team plays you buy 24 beers and always certain snacks plus they can profile your eating habbits so no pork based products but only buys halal food = potential terrorist since you are muslim

so much of our lives is made up of repetition that if the spooks can understand what we do they can predict us better than ourselves

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 01:58 PM
reply to post by Maxatoria

if i grow a crop of hydro green in my house
them bastardos will be over me like a ton of bricks

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 02:03 PM
All this presumes there will be a intrusion on your personal network by governmental forces.

For the NSA to do real time traffic analysis on hundreds of millions of connections, just isnt feasible.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 02:11 PM
Great idea thread.
I would love to know what info our cable boxes, Time Warner
or Dish network boxes are sending back? Where do you fast fwd where do you
rewind, what programs you subscribe to etc. There is a lot they could learn
just from that. They obviously have the hardware to do this in place.
Trying to find info on this type of thing on the Internet is nearly impossible.
But it's gotta be doing something.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 02:13 PM
reply to post by Ixtab

they're building a massive data centre somewhere in america thats needed serious juce (60 MW ) so theres going to be enough room to record everyones eating habbits etc

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 02:13 PM
reply to post by sealing

Just search traffic analysis on networks.

You will be able to tell fairly quickly what information on your connection is being sent/received, where its going, where its coming from etc.

Dont let paranoia get the better of you.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 02:43 PM
And I guess when they say that this tv will make gaming better with these capabilities we are supposed to forget that Homeland Security hacked Sony through Infraguard under the name Anonymous. And then they put a guy in Sony who served in the coldwar spy against Russia. Not to mention Department of Homeland Security spy. So are they creating a way to spy on your house through childrens toys? They know a child will just have to have it and will not give up till he gets it.

Sony Corp. has hired a former U.S. Department of Homeland Security official as its new top security executive.

Heres more on Philip Reitinger.

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano announced today her appointment of Philip Reitinger as the Deputy Undersecretary of the Department’s National Protection and Programs Directorate (NPPD)*. In this role, Reitinger will be charged with protecting the U.S. government’s computing systems from domestic and foreign threats.

As a current member of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) National Advisory Council, Reitinger advises the FEMA administrator on aspects of cyber security related to emergency management. He is an expert on computer crime and policy, and previously was the Executive Director of the U.S. Department of Defense’s (DOD) Cyber Crime Center, charged with providing electronic forensic services and supporting cyber investigative functions department-wide. Before joining DOD, Reitinger served as Deputy Chief of the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property division at the U.S. Department of Justice.

Then theres the other guy.

Under Mr. Wahlin's leadership a new security operations center (SOC) has been created, in partnership with security contractor ArcSight, Inc. and hardware provider Hewlett-Packard Comp. (HPQ). The Sony CSO hopes to emulate the successes of top security teams like the Microsoft Trustworthy Computing Group. Among his tools are automated defenses, penetration testing, and regular code audits.

As mentioned, the results are paying off -- Sony hasn't been hacked lately. And even when it has suffered the occasional intrusion, it's locked it down before much damage could be done.

Taking on the Russians with U.S. military, and later the Chinese (or "state-sponsored guys" as Mr. Wahlin ambiguously refers to them as in the piece) was hard enough, but taking on Anonymous is a brand new and potentially greater challenge. But while Mr. Wahlin may not be able to stop every single attack, he is the face of a new era for Sony, a company that went from having four security employees to having a solid security task force, manned by some of the world's best and brightest. As they say, necessity is the mother of invention.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 03:14 PM
What do tptb get out of spying on my tv? So what if they know I DVR the walking dead and dexter... Big whoop... I just dont get the point? Nothing feasible could be ascertained by spying on my directv habits...

Pointless use of government time, hmm maybe there is something to this.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 03:15 PM
reply to post by Ixtab

Ah Thanks.
That's the terminology I was missing.
Eh I'm not worried about it, just curious.
Thanks for the info.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 03:28 PM
reply to post by bknapple32

I remind you of this article.

The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him.

Nextel cell phones owned by two alleged mobsters, John Ardito and his attorney Peter Peluso, were used by the FBI to listen in on nearby conversations. The FBI views Ardito as one of the most powerful men in the Genovese family, a major part of the national Mafia.

The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone.

Kaplan's opinion said that the eavesdropping technique "functioned whether the phone was powered on or off." Some handsets can't be fully powered down without removing the battery; for instance, some Nokia models will wake up when turned off if an alarm is set.

And guess what software was used? It would have been TinyOS. And the microphone was turned on and stayed on even if you turned the phone off. The only way to get it to stop was by removing the battery itself. TinyOS was created to work as a software in low power low memory infrastructure such as cell phones as a operating system to rewrite the software plant bugs or viruses even rewrite chips. Now this tech is being introduced into smart appliances and even tv's.

Imagine them turning your tv into a "roving bug" this way. They not only record all voices but get video to no matter if your tv is onn or off. So every room in your house with a tv is a video rcording system for the NSA.
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posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 03:37 PM
And who is going to listen to the 150,000,000 households?

Again, what are they going to hear? How my wife cant cook meat properly, and my subsequent explanations on how to do so??

Nothing to hide, nothing to worry about.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 03:41 PM

Originally posted by bknapple32
What do tptb get out of spying on my tv? So what if they know I DVR the walking dead and dexter... Big whoop... I just dont get the point? Nothing feasible could be ascertained by spying on my directv habits...

Pointless use of government time, hmm maybe there is something to this.

could be slightly awkward
if your pulling one off
wink wink

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 04:25 PM
reply to post by bknapple32

Who thought all that spyong cababilities of google would be a problem? Then China decided to hack google.

They tapped into a secret spy network that was built and used it to spy on everybody they wanted information on. China the spied on became the spy. Then you have the case of News Corp haking and spying.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 04:35 PM
reply to post by Ixtab

It is not magic. All traffic is routed upstream to larger routers that handle traffic inspection/QoS/management on their level. Your home router deals with your small network. Your ISP has routers that deal with all the homes and business traffic. The ISP has to go further upstream for their network access. The big network carriers like AT&T have routers that easily handle the ISP's. Every level you go up in capacity, you also level up in hardware and the ability to manage (AKA snoop).

Cisco CRS-3
Overview: The Cisco CRS-3 triples the capacity of its predecessor, the Cisco CRS-1 Carrier Routing System, with up to 322 Terabits per second, which enables the entire printed collection of the Library of Congress to be downloaded in just over one second; every man, woman and child in China to make a video call, simultaneously; and every motion picture ever created to be streamed in less than four minutes.
The Cisco CRS-3 enables unified service delivery of Internet and cloud services with service intelligence spanning service provider Internet Protocol Next-Generation Networks (IP NGNs) and data center. The Cisco CRS-3 also provides unprecedented savings with investment protection for the nearly 5,000 Cisco CRS-1 deployed worldwide. Cisco's cumulative investment in the Cisco CRS family is $1.6 billion, further underscoring the company's commitment.

5000 CSR-1's that will get a upgrade to 3 or 4-5 in the future.
The software to find and record IP traffic is old school and has been mandated by the GOV for years.

Besides, when you unchecked youtube and P2P from your monitoring, what you see is greater. Just looking at the IP's that trade encrypted info builds a interesting picture.

just because you’re paranoid, don’t mean they’re not after you

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 04:39 PM
If they really want to waste time watching me watch pornographic videos....

They really could just ask me what they need to know. I don't really do much of anything besides work and come home and relax.

posted on Mar, 23 2012 @ 04:41 PM
have you checked them
recently installed smoke alarms
that are wired to the mains
that you was conned into paying to install
quartz it is then

oh yeh
how many of you disable your camera on your laptop?
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