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For battlefield thefts, man gets 366-day term
On 1,014 days over four years, John J. Santo scoured Petersburg National Battlefield Park and other properties with a metal detector and his dog, looking for Civil War-era artifacts that he could collect and turn into cash.
On Wednesday, the 52-year-old unemployed Pennsylvania native was sentenced in U.S. District Court in Richmond to one year and one day in a federal prison.www2.timesdispatch.com...
Originally posted by groingrinder
I say BRAVO to the man with the metal detector!!!
Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by groingrinder
When a brush fire burned off the site of the battle of Little Big Horn, researchers and archaeologists, from the bullets and cartridged found were able to reconstruct how the battle was actually fought, as the Indian accounts contradicted one another. If looters had been allowed to steal all the bullets and cartridges this would have been impossible.
From a single bullet you can tell where the bullet was made - whether it was made in a Union munition factory or imported from French and whether it hit someone, or the type of weapon it was fired from.
Looting destroys evidence which cannot be replaced
After a grass fire in 1983 cleared brush and grass from the site of the Battle of the Little Bighorn, archaeologists conducted thorough examinations of the battlefield. During the digs, the authors assembled the most convincing evidence thus far of what really happened on June 25, 1876. 83 illustrations, 34 tables.
www.sha.org...
Archaeologists can also learn how land battles played out and, by incorporating the voices of minorities, we begin to understand better the clashes between cultures. One of the most prominent clashes between cultures in North American history--Custer's battle--took place on 25 June 1876 in what is now Montana. There, along Little Big Horn River, the Seventh U. S. Cavalry, led by Lt. Col. George Custer, met defeat at the hands of the Sioux and Northern Cheyenne. Much has been said and written about the battle of Little Big Horn River, but our histories of this conflict largely exclude perspectives of the native victors. Now, historical archaeology has challenged that bias and revised our understanding of what happened there....
... which one hundred fifty Cheyenne and Arapaho elders, women, and children died at the hands of American soldiers...then the braves came back found this going on and Kicked Custers genocidal A$$
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by groingrinder
I say BRAVO to the man with the metal detector!!!
So where would you draw the line? Or would you? And what makes your ethical breaking point any more legitimate than, say, somebody who would strip the 'things' from a burial on site?
Ignorance is a poor basis from which to construct any rationale.
Originally posted by groingrinder
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by groingrinder
I say BRAVO to the man with the metal detector!!!
So where would you draw the line? Or would you? And what makes your ethical breaking point any more legitimate than, say, somebody who would strip the 'things' from a burial on site?
Ignorance is a poor basis from which to construct any rationale.
Ethics has nothing to do with it. I have been finding Indian and ancient artifacts from Montana to Arizona in my wanderings in the wilderness. The way I look at it, there is a reason that I am finding this stuff. So I keep it. Mostly it is just arrowheads and pottery fragments and glass beads. Bullets and ramrods and money. If I am not supposed to have it, then somebody else would find it.
Originally posted by ladyteeny
the bloke did it for FOUR years, feeding himself and his dog, probably to survive given his circumstances. he was doing something for himself, generating his own income over 4 years.
Originally posted by Flavian
If he had notified the correct authorities, he would still have been eligible for a finders cut of any resale. He didn't, he chose to not announce them and sell them on and he was then caught. That is theft pure and simple - and all because he couldn't be bothered to notify the correct authorities of his finds. Pretty stupid really.
Originally posted by Mississippi
reply to post by JohnnyCanuckAnd why 1 year & 1 day to serve instead of just one year to serve you may ask? Well under the law prisoners hv to serve 65% of their sentence, but if you only have a year sentence that does not apply so you have to serve the full year, but since he got a year and a day he'll only have to serve 65% of 366 days!
Originally posted by Flavian
I would honestly have thought (what with being a "new" nation) that the US would actively combat looting of historic artifacts and would encourage the collecting and sharing of these artifacts. Really, really amazed.........
Does this mean that archeologists in the States can be very cranky? With this to contend with, i am surprised they ever publish site locations.