"Hello, this is Rachel from Cardholder Services"- the Government is useless, and can't stop these, page


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Topic started on 22-3-2012 @ 04:44 PM by ProfEmeritus
I'm sure that if you have a land phone, you have gotten calls from "Rachel, from cardholder services.
I'm pretty sure that most of you have already signed up for the useless "Do not Call" list that the government provides.
Here is my "rant". If the government cannot stop such an obvious scam, how can they possibly manage complex issues like budget, healthcare, military, and social services.
Well, I think that I have answered my own question. Look at the mess this country is in. I'm not about to blame one President, Congress or official. It is the nature of government, to do things much less efficiently than a private for-profit enterprise.
Perhaps they don't even "give a damn" about Rachel and her scam to steal your credit card and social security number. Here is an article from the LA Times about one person who tried to stop these calls.HE was THREATENED with police action.
articles.latimes.com...

Hard to stop telemarketing calls from 'Rachel' A recorded message from 'Rachel' at 'card member services' tells consumers they can lower their credit card rate. For some in the U.S., getting the telemarketing calls to end has been no easy task. November 29, 2011|David Lazarus Howard Cohen has received dozens of calls from "Rachel" at "card member services." At first he thought they must be from his credit card issuer. Now he knows better. "It's a scam," Cohen, 67, of Fontana told me. "All they want is to get you into some new credit card with a higher interest rate — or worse."
The "worse" in this case is possibly having your identity stolen and bogus charges run up on your plastic.

The Web is dripping with complaints from consumers nationwide about the "Rachel" calls. In most cases, a recorded message informs you that you can lower your credit card rate. You're then instructed to press 1 for more information.

Doing so will connect you with a live agent who will request your credit card number and your Social Security number.

Needless to say, those are two numbers you don't want to share with strangers — and you don't want to share your Social with anyone. Period.

"These calls are incredibly deceptive," said Linda Sherry, a spokeswoman for the advocacy group Consumer Action. "You think it's from your bank and then you're not sure what it is."

The sheer volume of calls being made by this outfit speaks to a large and unusually sophisticated operation. Complaints have been lodged by people everywhere from California to Maine.

"It must be an enormous operation for them to be able to do this," said Sherry, who also has received calls from "Rachel" at her home and office, even though both lines are listed with the federal Do Not Call Registry.

Cohen said he understands the nature of the pitch. "I was in sales for half my career," he said. "It's a game of percentages. If you make enough calls, you're going to get a few people who say yes."

In his case, the story gets even more interesting. Cohen said that when he connected with a live agent and started asking to be removed from the company's telemarketing list, the agent hung up on him.

"This occurred dozens of times," Cohen said. "It really bothered me. I'm on the Do Not Call list. I don't want to be getting calls like this."
He finally told a card member services agent that if they didn't stop bugging him, he'd come to their office "and beat some heads in."

A few seconds later, Cohen said, his phone rang again and a male voice warned that Cohen would be reported to the police for making threats.

Welcome to the world of government, where up is down, in is out, and nothing makes sense.


reply posted on 5-12-2012 @ 10:42 AM by ProfEmeritus
This is an update to the "RACHEL"scam:

FTC Hangs Up On “Rachel From Cardholder Services”
1 Nov 2012

For several years, American consumers have been receiving illigal and unwanted robocalls with a recorded message from “Rachel”, "Heather", most recently "Ann" or vaguely named “Cardholder Services.”

Finally today, the Federal Trade Commission announced it had pulled the plug on five companies behind these scammy robocalls: federal courts granted the agency’s request to temporarily halt five robocall operations that allegedly deceived consumers into paying hundreds or thousands of dollars by making phony claims that they could reduce credit card interest rates in return for an upfront fee.

The robocalls purport to have an “important message” regarding an opportunity to reduce high credit card interest rates, and consumers are urged to “press 1” to connect with a live representative, or “press 2” to discontinue getting such calls. Consumers who press 1 are connected to live telemarketers, who then pitch deceptive offers to have the credit card interest rates substantially reduced, sometimes to as low as 6.9 or even zero percent.

In some cases, according to the FTC, the telemarketers claim to be calling from the consumer’s credit card company. In other cases, they use “Cardholder Services” to suggest a relationship with a bank or credit card company. If the consumer expresses an interest in the rate reduction offer, the telemarketer sometimes conducts a purported “audit” to determine whether the consumer qualifies.

Consumers provide their financial and personal information, and are then put on hold while the “audit” is completed. According to the FTC, the “audit” typically is used only to determine whether consumers have enough credit available on their credit cards to pay the company’s fee.

After consumers have been “approved” for the program the telemarketer informs them that there is an up-front fee, typically ranging from several hundred dollars to nearly $3,000. To convince them to pay the fee, telemarketers often say that it will be more than offset by the money the consumer will save through the program. In some cases, the FTC alleges that consumers’ credit cards were charged even if they did not agree to pay for the service. In other cases, the defendants allegedly do not disclose a fee at all, or claim there will be no fee.

After consumers pay the up-front fee they typically find that the companies do little or nothing to lower their credit card interest rates. The only thing that some companies do, according to the FTC, is to initiate three-way calls with consumers’ credit card issuers and orally request a rate reduction, a request that consumers could make on their own and that invariably is denied.

The five complaints announced today were filed against the following companies and their principals:

1) Treasure Your Success

2) Ambrosia Web Design

3) A+ Financial Center

4) The Green Savers, and

5) Key One Solutions

(click on the links above to read the phone call reports made by the community about the defendants.)


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