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Originally posted by MeesterB
Ever heard of the electron cloud model? It's generally accepted as more accurate than the bohr model that you are trying to expand on. Plus your model of a defined geometric path doesn't really account for electron energy levels or covalent bonding or conductivity or electron density. I think you are also stretching to assume that such a simple example "explains magnetism." You don't touch on electromagnetism or induction.
Edit: by "the hydrogen bond" are you talking about hydrogen bonding or something else entirely made up?edit on 3/22/2012 by MeesterB because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Gruffly
reply to post by zarp3333
Gravity isn't well understood in mainstream science, but as far as I understand and remember (it's been a while!), I believe that the force of gravity is a separate effect than the forces which keep and attract atoms together (was that the electrical force? I don't remember that clearly). Gravity seems to be an effect of space-time being warped around a mass.
While you might be on to something... that "something" probably doesn't have much to do with gravity.
At the same time, my primary consideration was to solve the problem of the hydrogen bond. Covalent and ionic bonding mechanisms were clear and rational. The explanations for the hydrogen bond always struck me like the professor was just pulling it out of his ass.
Imagine a torus shaped like a grapefruit with a thin spindle in the middle.
Instead of the traditional depiction of elecrons orbiting the nucleus like planets on a 2-Dimensional record player, or even a carosel, Imagine instead the orbit of electrons following a path on the surface of a torus including the central spindle.
Please bear with me. Imagine a torus shaped like a grapefruit with a thin spindle in the middle. Now imagine electrons spiraling up the outside from the bottom tracing the circumference. As the electron transitions from the wide circumference at the top, and go into the thin tube, they speed up, like water flushing down a drain.
This causes a vacume-like effect at the top or "negative" pole. When the electrons emerge from the bottom and make the transition to the outside, they send out a wave of energy. Picture a rock hitting a pond. Only instead of 2D waves rippling away from the center, picture a spiral wave form coming out of the bottom.
The spiral works like an Archimedes screw also forming an attractive force. The bottom is then the "positive" pole. When the two poles line up, the screw-like wave form is drawn into the vacume and separate molecules are drawn together.
This would also explain that gravity increases by the inverse square of the distance. As separate masses get closer, the poles of more and more molecules begin to line up thus increasing the attraction.
I initially used this theory to explain the hydrogen bond and magnetism. But after seeing the picture of nitrogen, I imagine it could work with a variety of atoms so long as the electrons follow torroidal paths like the nitrogen electrons appear to do in the earlier thread. (pardon the lack of links. I'm posting with my telephone
Finally, if somebody could create a torroidal pick-up, a current could be induced as waves flow through. Does this make sense?
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by zarp3333
In their defense... It is pretty easy to forget right?