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Drug Lord Thanks Obama, Bush, & Reagan For War On Drugs

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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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Hello ATS, Yet another video i stumbled across. Now this drug dealer (leader of Mexican cartel) Is pretty crazy. But Look who he thanks. Here is about the video:


Via The Huffington Post: "Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman Loera reported . of the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico, ranked 701st on Forbes' yearly report of the wealthiest men alive, and worth an estimated $1 billion, today officially thanked United States politicians for making sure that drugs remain illegal. According to one of his closest confidants, he said, "I couldn't have gotten so stinking rich without George Bush, George Bush Jr., Ronald Reagan, even El Presidente Obama, none of them have the cajones to stand up to all the big money that wants to keep this stuff illegal...".* Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur break it down on The Young Turks. Do we need more evidence that the war on drugs has failed?





posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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There are obviously many people with a vested interest in keeping drugs illegal. You don't punish addiction, you treat it. The huffingtonpost mentioned that many believe these gangs are in cahoots with alcohol and tobacco businessman. I would think big pharma if anything.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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Yeah, I believe it to. This war on drugs has done nothing but HELP the drug cartels and drug lords.

It's time for our government to admit they failed on this one.

The one man I thought I never would agree with. Pat Robertson... Even he said it was failing.

It's time to end this mess. This "war" has done nothing to slow down the rate in which drugs enter this country and it's done nothing to curtail the amount of people who use them.

It's a waste of money that could go into FIXING this countries economic problems....

Let's say weed were legalized. Think of the money that would be brought in if it were regulated and taxed by the government....That is money we could really use right about now.


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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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not only that but consider Portugal with their drug use rate dropped when they made drugs legal. we have all been teenagers and one thing sticks out for me was if an adult said no you can't or it's illegal, that was like an invitation to do it. lol



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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Before prohibition was ended the illegal booze trade made criminals flourish in the communities and enjoy boom times in their illegal businesses. It did nothing to "protect" society and was a foolish joke and a failed experiment in control. A bunch of crazy suffragettes got their way and what sounded like a great idea at the time - since there were problems with alcoholism killing people even then - became an unmanageable and impractical law.You would think we might learn we cannot control people who are determined to do something - all you can do is manage it.

Including a few presently illegal drugs in with the multitude of legal pharmaceuticals we have killing people everyday would solve an array of very costly and heartbreaking societal problems. These would including street crime and robbery of innocent people, murder, trafficking, and boarder safety issues.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by ventian
There are obviously many people with a vested interest in keeping drugs illegal. You don't punish addiction, you treat it. The huffingtonpost mentioned that many believe these gangs are in cahoots with alcohol and tobacco businessman. I would think big pharma if anything.



These are the troubled poor people with chemistry issues and medical problems. They can't afford to get a doctor to tell them they are schitzo and bi-polar and get prescribed all kinds of attitude adjusters. They are trying to medicate themselves. We throw them in jail. That is penalizing and forcibly incarcerating people because they are POOR and may have dependency issues or treatable psychiatric problems.

I know that countries with far less drug use and problems than the US will treat drug addictions as the pharmaceutical dependency and medical issue it is.

Users are hospitalized and rehabilitated. Pushers are sent to jail.
Seems to work and no wonder. It makes a lot of sense.

We let viscous killers, child molesters and violent offenders - true dangers to the community, out of jail to make room for victimless drug "criminals." Then we wonder why it's effed up out here.


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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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Is it ironic that Obama would send his daughter to Mexico for Spring Break and the next thing we hear this guy thanking Obama and other Presidents for making him wealthy with there war on drugs.....


I hope Obama's not thinking that if we see his daughter in Mexico that we all believe it's a safe place to visit. You know with all the coverage on Fast and Furious and innocent people being killed or gone missing in Mexico. It's a definite Fail as well as ever earning the respect from the Majority of Americans.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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I have a question for you guys. Why would Forbes have this criminal on there list? That seems kind of odd to me and is what really stood out to me.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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because the 5 million dollar bounty on this guy's . isn't real. our government makes money from the war on drugs, as do the mexican drug lords.

he's on forbes because they're practically business partners.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
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not only that but consider Portugal with their drug use rate dropped when they made drugs legal. we have all been teenagers and one thing sticks out for me was if an adult said no you can't or it's illegal, that was like an invitation to do it. lol


Yeah, I was thinking about that when I was making my previous post. I meant to include that, but was in a hurry at the time.

It's true. Drugs were made legal there and the use rate dropped considerably.

You are right... It's human nature, really... Some one says, no...You can't try this thing...You simply aren't allowed....

People get curious and decide to try it anyway...


The bottom line is the war on drugs is not working...Time to try something else...and I honestly think we should look at Portugal as far as what should be considered....

It may seem backwards to some, but it's true....

Drugs will never go away...Ever...They will always be around and there is no changing that...But if they really want to lower the rate in which drugs are consumed....Apparently legalizing is the way to go.



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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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Bad semantics from the get-go. You don't declare war on your own people and you don't treat a disease with legal consequences and incarceration. Legalization would be a great step, but until the public comes around to the idea, we should make possesion legal or at least not attach jail time and instead mandate treatment for repeat offenders etc.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
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not only that but consider Portugal with their drug use rate dropped when they made drugs legal. we have all been teenagers and one thing sticks out for me was if an adult said no you can't or it's illegal, that was like an invitation to do it. lol




Drugs will never go away...Ever...They will always be around and there is no changing that...But if they really want to lower the rate in which drugs are consumed....Apparently legalizing is the way to go.



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it really is, but i'm sure it's yet another symptom of a corrupt government. there is no other reason for it, try if you will but logic dictates that the drug war, the economy, possible and on going wars, food management and on and on is all a product of corporate and political corruption. we truly do need to start over and make it so money is out of politics and we the people run it.
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