Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by BO XIAN
But to be fair there are areas in the world where Islam is by far the dominant religion and honour killings are unheard of.
(redoing a zapped better reply. Sigh)
I'd think that research into what contributes to those differences might be a high priority for the world. However, it seems that the global oligarchy
has other priorities . . . like genocidally causing the Muslims to destroy as many other folks as possible toward massive population reduction goals .
. . like removing 6.8 billion off the planet.
So does this suggest that it's the culture that underpins the religion or the religion itself that is the root cause?
I'm not sure, I'm certainly no expert.
Was it a common practice before Islam gained control of the region?
I don't know how to tease those apart.
A study of the founding of Islam is instructive.
Mohammed was persuaded by his relatives and cohorts . . . that what he thought were demonic forces telling him to go that route--were not demons . . .
and that it was true that greater wealth and power was achievable via a RELIGION than by any other means.
And, lo and behold, a local tribal demonic moon god religion was quite malleable toward such uses.
I suspect that maybe people use religious teachings to support the cultural concept that serious dishonouring of the family should be punished by
Trouble is, the values, justifications for such violence were incorporated in the Koran and the Hadiths from, essentially, the beginning.
What an opportunity to have lifted the culture UP several layers . . . instead of insuring it wallowed in blood indefinitely.
If that's true then as Islam is an all consuming religion the bounderies between culture and religion are blurred and these killings become accepted
and even expected.
But where there wasn't a culture of honour killings local Islamic teachers and customs do not advocate honour killings.
A worthy point. What makes the difference?
And even in the other religious groups it does seem to be those who have a deep sense of cultural identity who commit these killings.
I don't see it that way, quite. I see it as a VERY RELIGIOUS example of Freud's IN-GROUP/OUT-GROUP observations and insights. The groups are RELIGIOUS
IN-GROUPS/OUT-GROUPS. And those are historically THE MOST INTENSE.
I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud and could easily be talking complete bollocks.
This sociologist thinks you make great points and cheers you on.
edit on 22/3/2012 by BO XIAN because: other version got zapped due to "security error"