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Sheriff Joe wants Obama's original draft card. WooT

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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by txjab512
reply to post by braindeadconservatives
 


When did he release the actual document? Hawai'i won't release his birth certificate because Obama doesn't want them to. His records are sealed. A photo copy is not the same as an original. And I'm no "birther". I don't trust any of them. Them being the crooked politicians that are ripping us off and stripping our rights. What do you know about Obama? Is he your guy because he's on your team? Would you elect anyone based on the fact that they are a Democrat and not a Republican just because of their party affiliation? What is it with you people? And when I say you people I mean elephants and asses...


If you weren't a birther, you wouldn't make statements such as "His records are sealed". Do you think I can just go all willy nilly into your records and get a copy of your birth certificate????? NO!!!!!! Guess what... your records are "sealed" too... you neighbors are sealed... your childrens are sealed... EVERYONE's ARE SEALED. Don't be a fool.




posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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He. didn't. start. those. f***ing. WARS!

You can't just say "hey, sorry for all those bombs, and deads and stuff. Bye now!" At least not today. You have to bring an end to it.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by txjab512
reply to post by muse7
 


Because he works for us and we're asking. If it's not that big a deal why doesn't he just do it. Is it going to take that much time and resources to shut everyone up? Please, shut me up. Like I said I could care less because it's not going to change anything. Just saw the thread and wanted to throw my two cents in. It's funny how angry the brainwashed and the birthers get about this ridiculous subject.


I work for you (government employee). Go get my birth certificate. Can't because my records are "sealed" and I didn't even have to do anything... wow.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by muse7
This is just getting sad.

At first I thought it was stupid

But now..

Now its getting to be so stupid that it's sad.


I agree. To think that Obama could have ended all of this by not having his entire past "sealed". He talked about transparency then sealed everything about his past. All he had to do was release his passport, college transcripts and explain why he has 18 aliases and multiple SS numbers and it would all go away, but nooooo, it's easier to project and call it "silliness" and racist.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by muse7
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If you mean that's he's severely unwanted here on ATS then you are 100% right.

Remember that this is also the place where topics such as "Whites are more discriminated against" are common. Obama will win the re-election in November.

He's done a damn good job.


Please cite specific accomplishments. I'm more than willing to listen. But, there is one caveat; you have to cite Obama's accomplishments without mentioning "Bush", "Previous administration", etc.

And, "passing ObamaCare" doesn't count. I need to know specifically how anybody benefited. I work in healthcare and know a little bit about "ObamaCare" and its effect on healthcare. I'll be waiting.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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All I can say is "crackpot." Is there more evidence than what some tea party sheriff says? Is there more evidence than what a few nitpickers point out on these forums? Has anyone of substance really stood up with some evidence and pointed at the glaring errors in the birth certificate?

Or is this whole "birth certificate" witchhunt something more than just a validation of the presidents record? Is it something the white majority isnt willing to say in the open?




Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."





April 27, 2011: The White House released the long-form version of President Barack Obama’s birth certificate, confirming (yet again) that he was born in the United States. The Hawaii Department of Health made an exception in Obama’s case and issued copies of the "Certificate of Live Birth."






Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it’s stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates).



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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I think sheriff Joe needs to start worrying about his ever increasing belly size



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by muse7
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Because 79 year olds are not prone to suffer heart attacks right?



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Yea, Andrew Breitbart was what, 78 or 79? Oh, wait. Never mind.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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No they wont but if you pay the fee the state will send you a copy. I have had to get copies and you have to pay. I did not get the original in any circumstance. The certified copies that the state sent to me of birth certificates and a marriage certificate were acceptable in every circumstance.
The only PDF in this case is the copy that the state provided online for anyone to view. Did you think they were going to send out the original to the media and if you think that they should have, whom do you deem worthy, to obtain that original, who will treat if carefully and return it to the hospital who will then returned to their archived records ?
PDF is the way to share records with multiple outlets now. Or should all of the newspapers, TV stations, online media outlets etc all have been mailed certified copies from the original source, and sorry for the second run on question but if your answer is yes, then who should pay for the expense of multiple certified copies mailed to thousands of media outlets requesting one ? Wooo, I'm outa breath.....



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by pirhanna
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I don't think Sheriff Joe is an American Citizen.
He can't prove it.


So prove it, like he did with Obama. BTW, sheriff Joe isn't president. You knew that, right?



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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Thing is, he did do it. He provided his birth certificate multiple times and "NO ONE APPARENTLY SAW IT" or no one cared to see it or no one believed it was real or they wanted to hold it in their hands directly...or some foolishness like that.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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These points have been made over and over again. Apparently they are not sharp enough for some people. Or some really low down people will just pretend not to see this as proven and over and want to waste other peoples time and the courts time in frivolous law suites.
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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Well put. You nailed it with "politicians are not nice people". They are egotistical, self-important narcissists. The truth is, everybody is afraid to tackle this issue.

The truly sad part is how many people literally worship Obama, and I'm not being dramatic. It is the only way to describe somebody who simply does not care if he is a citizen or not. His supporters have no problem with him thumbing his nose at the constitution and lying to them and the rest of the people.

A truly independent person would look at this and say, "You SOB, I voted for you and you lied to me. You deceived me and my family. Explain this BC issue. Why do you have multiple SS numbers?". But, instead, his supporters look the other way because, as they put it, "they won". No, you didn't win. You were deceived and manipulated by the very person you put your faith in. In reality, you lost. We all lost.

I voted for Bush and was a Bush supporter shortly after 9/11 but after I opened my eyes and put away my partisan childishness, I began to see much clearer. Bush is a criminal, complicit in 9/11 and Obama is a criminal guilty of fraud, forgery, high crimes and misdemeanors. The truth is, in all of Washington, there is not one person of integrity left. I do not believe for one minute that everybody in Washington thinks that Obama is a natural born citizen. And the fact that they don't have the integrity to come out and say it pretty much spells the end of our system of government in the US. Precedent has been set. Anything goes.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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Obama's Draft Card has already been released..

File a Freedom of Information Act request to get a copy of it for yourselves.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by antonia
I believe Sheriff Joe is a freaking swindler who is cashing in on morons.

He's a perfect example of American entrepreneurship.


I believe Obama is a freaking swindler who is cashing in on morons.

He's a perfect example of the epidemic spread of worldwide corruption and graft.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by theclutch
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and yet we still have no original birth certificate? He still doesn't offer the proof that he is mandated as a president to show! No show........No go!

You can have all the court cases you want thrown out in the world, but until there is proof.......there will always be questions!


Yes you do have the original birth certificate...but you believe a youtube video of someone claiming to be an "expert" and that is all it takes to convince you and the rest of the birthers.

Even though multiple other reputable places have shown that it is legit.

I gave up a long time ago trying to reason with birthers...now I just feel sad for them.


hm you did not download the original birth PDF file they shared so nicely with us? was adobe a bitch?

kay-o? if you like the "experts" from the gov better you are on my list of shills.

nanu nanu



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Furbs
Obama's Draft Card has already been released..

File a Freedom of Information Act request to get a copy of it for yourselves.


Would that be a copy of another doctored document like the birth certificate. Is there a third fraudulent document out there? After all, everyone knows that two wrongs don't make a right, but three do.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
reply to post by muse7
 


Like I said, he needs to produce something.



No...No he doesn't. No one and certainly not the President is obligated to play games with insane people.

He has already provided more information about his birth than any President in the entire history of our country.

He doesn't need to indulge the fevered ramblings of people whose disease will never be cured with evidence.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by bobs_uruncle

Originally posted by Furbs
Obama's Draft Card has already been released..

File a Freedom of Information Act request to get a copy of it for yourselves.


Would that be a copy of another doctored document like the birth certificate. Is there a third fraudulent document out there? After all, everyone knows that two wrongs don't make a right, but three do.

Cheers - Dave


Just to ask the question; What document would be 'good enough'? Does the document need to say that Obama is from Kenya? Obviously any document that doesn't say that must be a fraud, correct? Seriously, I have no idea what you could possibly be asking for if every government document is likely a fraud because it is issued by the government.

What impossible standard are you looking to achieve?
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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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Hey, I'm with you. I think it should be illegal for him to conceal his records. My goodness, if he wants to be POTUS we need to know everything about him.

Actually, I feel sorry for this sheriff. He's got information and there is no one in the government who will touch it. Sadly, MSM has him on ignore also.

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