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Alien Abduction or Sleep Paralysis

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posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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So here is my question to those of you that doubt those that have experienced what they believe are alien abductions but you like to simplify as sleep paralysis.


How is it that the millions of people that experience this phenom pretty much experience almost the exact same scenario.

Electricity +check
Unable to scream +check
paralysis +check
being handled by strange beings +check
seeing the same beings approach them through a foggy light +check
being thrown back onto their bed +check

I am sure I missed a little something here and there but overall almost every experiencer has pretty much the exact same experience step by step.

You debunkers like to dismiss this as memories from a movie or the like.

Well, ok, how do you explain villagers in remote regions that have never seen a television or read a book and they too share the same experience.

The thing is, all of us are having the same scenario play out. How if this is a medical issue do you explain the same visuals?

Esqueeze me grammar.




posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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You forgot the possibility of Demon possession/attack. But I agree with your premise- same stuff different people- scary situations.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Ameliaair


So here is my question to those of you that doubt those that have experienced what they believe are alien abductions but you like to simplify as sleep paralysis.


How is it that the millions of people that experience this phenom pretty much experience almost the exact same scenario.

Electricity +check
Unable to scream +check
paralysis +check
being handled by strange beings +check
seeing the same beings approach them through a foggy light +check
being thrown back onto their bed +check



What is Sleep Paralysis?


What are the symptoms?

A complaint of inability to move the trunk or limbs at sleep onset or upon awakening
Presence of brief episodes of partial or complete skeletal muscle paralysis
Episodes can be associated with hypnagogic hallucinations or dream-like mentation (act or use of the brain)

Polysomnography (a sleep recording) shows at least one of the following:

suppression of skeletal muscle tone
a sleep onset REM period
dissociated REM sleep

In some cases, when hypnogogic hallucinations are present, people feel that someone is in the room with them, some experience the feeling that someone or something is sitting on their chest and they feel impending death and suffocation. That has been called the “Hag Phenomena” and has been happening to people over the centuries. These things cause people much anxiety and terror, but there is no physical harm.


I feel that explains the symptoms that alleged "abductors" claim to have, pretty well!
edit on March 21st 2012 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by calnorak
You forgot the possibility of Demon possession/attack. But I agree with your premise- same stuff different people- scary situations.



I am very open to this also as my experience could be explained either way.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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This is one of the things that i have experienced before multiple times in my life.

One thing i would like to point out is that I have not had the being thrown back onto my bed part nor checking to see if i have Electricity during the event.

This has happened to me around 10-12 times. It is rare and it started when i was 3, I am 25 now.

Most of the time this has happened I am unable to open my eyes, scream/talk/move. It is the worst feeling I have ever had. This is one of the reasons I never checked for Electricity being on.

During a few of the events I have either felt as there were beings in room with me other times I have felt a hand on a part of my body. I am still able to hear and only 2 times have I ever heard anyone talking, unable to know what was being said.

I dont know what movie someone could say this is from if its just a memory and im dreaming.

Just wanted to post what has happened to me during this. Looking forward to see what people can come up with for debunking.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by Ameliaair


So here is my question to those of you that doubt those that have experienced what they believe are alien abductions but you like to simplify as sleep paralysis.


How is it that the millions of people that experience this phenom pretty much experience almost the exact same scenario.

Electricity +check
Unable to scream +check
paralysis +check
being handled by strange beings +check
seeing the same beings approach them through a foggy light +check
being thrown back onto their bed +check



What is Sleep Paralysis?


What are the symptoms?

A complaint of inability to move the trunk or limbs at sleep onset or upon awakening
Presence of brief episodes of partial or complete skeletal muscle paralysis
Episodes can be associated with hypnagogic hallucinations or dream-like mentation (act or use of the brain)

Polysomnography (a sleep recording) shows at least one of the following:

suppression of skeletal muscle tone
a sleep onset REM period
dissociated REM sleep

In some cases, when hypnogogic hallucinations are present, people feel that someone is in the room with them, some experience the feeling that someone or something is sitting on their chest and they feel impending death and suffocation. That has been called the “Hag Phenomena” and has been happening to people over the centuries. These things cause people much anxiety and terror, but there is no physical harm.


I feel that explains the symptoms that alleged "abductors" claim to have, pretty well!
edit on March 21st 2012 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)



In some way yes, in others no. I experienced physical harm by being lifted and tossed around the room and actually saw beings and was touched and handled by them



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Wolf001
This is one of the things that i have experienced before multiple times in my life.

One thing i would like to point out is that I have not had the being thrown back onto my bed part nor checking to see if i have Electricity during the event.

This has happened to me around 10-12 times. It is rare and it started when i was 3, I am 25 now.

Most of the time this has happened I am unable to open my eyes, scream/talk/move. It is the worst feeling I have ever had. This is one of the reasons I never checked for Electricity being on.

During a few of the events I have either felt as there were beings in room with me other times I have felt a hand on a part of my body. I am still able to hear and only 2 times have I ever heard anyone talking, unable to know what was being said.

I dont know what movie someone could say this is from if its just a memory and im dreaming.

Just wanted to post what has happened to me during this. Looking forward to see what people can come up with for debunking.



Thanks for sharing. The electrical shocks for me begin by the beings /shadows touching my feet and it slowly moves up my body until I am unable to move.

My eyes were never closed as I just laid down a min or 2 prior to my experiences.

I was always awake.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by Ameliaair


So here is my question to those of you that doubt those that have experienced what they believe are alien abductions but you like to simplify as sleep paralysis.


How is it that the millions of people that experience this phenom pretty much experience almost the exact same scenario.

Electricity +check
Unable to scream +check
paralysis +check
being handled by strange beings +check
seeing the same beings approach them through a foggy light +check
being thrown back onto their bed +check



What is Sleep Paralysis?


What are the symptoms?

A complaint of inability to move the trunk or limbs at sleep onset or upon awakening
Presence of brief episodes of partial or complete skeletal muscle paralysis
Episodes can be associated with hypnagogic hallucinations or dream-like mentation (act or use of the brain)

Polysomnography (a sleep recording) shows at least one of the following:

suppression of skeletal muscle tone
a sleep onset REM period
dissociated REM sleep

In some cases, when hypnogogic hallucinations are present, people feel that someone is in the room with them, some experience the feeling that someone or something is sitting on their chest and they feel impending death and suffocation. That has been called the “Hag Phenomena” and has been happening to people over the centuries. These things cause people much anxiety and terror, but there is no physical harm.


I feel that explains the symptoms that alleged "abductors" claim to have, pretty well!
edit on March 21st 2012 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)




The no physical harm part i can say is not only false but i can say from personal experience that i have scars from these events. I have 3 scars, one that connects from the top of my lip to the bottom as if my lips were tucked in and sealed shut in the middle. The second is on the inside of my left knee in the shape of a T like it was opened up. the other is on my chest, straight line about 2 in.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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I can say that I don't remember ever having this feeling. While I feel a presence a lot I don't have the paralysis aspect and just feel the terror.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:14 PM
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Join the club. I mean I had 4 or 5 of them grab me throw me all over my bed, against the wall, onto the floor and back onto the bed.

lol I felt like mike Tyson was about to bite my ear off next.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:33 PM
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What if... It's the military doing remote viewing... And they are testing some way of astral projection real world manipulation.... Like imagine this, sleepwalkers... Are being remotely controlled via some 20 year old marines hooked up to a machine matrix style...

Imagine they do some torture type things to get info outta people... Before you can do that you gotta practice right?



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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Ive yet to meet a Marine that would consciously do something like that. They are hardcore, but all the ones I know are disciplined enough to not do that to someone that is not an enemy combatant or physically threatening them.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:40 PM
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I have felt this a few times. I was laying in bed with my arms above my head about to fall asleep. then i could feel something come over me. i would then hear whispers and almost like growling and i could not move, scream, open my eyes or anything, so in that case i would tell my self to calm down and mentally fight it i still awoke with scares and a harsh sense of terror.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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I meant no disrespect to any of our soldiers... Just trying to throw an idea out.
But you have a good point, it would be sick people to do that.. I was basing my idea off a video i saw in another thread. It was about a remote viewer who would somehow, using implants in her head tell a soldier who also had implants in his head some intel and sitrep.

My bad for hijacking this more right now..

I just don't understand the basic discretion of events... Feeling the presence of others, that's some scary stuff.



posted on Mar, 21 2012 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by Ameliaair


So here is my question to those of you that doubt those that have experienced what they believe are alien abductions but you like to simplify as sleep paralysis.


How is it that the millions of people that experience this phenom pretty much experience almost the exact same scenario.

Electricity +check
Unable to scream +check
paralysis +check
being handled by strange beings +check
seeing the same beings approach them through a foggy light +check
being thrown back onto their bed +check



What is Sleep Paralysis?


What are the symptoms?

A complaint of inability to move the trunk or limbs at sleep onset or upon awakening
Presence of brief episodes of partial or complete skeletal muscle paralysis
Episodes can be associated with hypnagogic hallucinations or dream-like mentation (act or use of the brain)

Polysomnography (a sleep recording) shows at least one of the following:

suppression of skeletal muscle tone
a sleep onset REM period
dissociated REM sleep

In some cases, when hypnogogic hallucinations are present, people feel that someone is in the room with them, some experience the feeling that someone or something is sitting on their chest and they feel impending death and suffocation. That has been called the “Hag Phenomena” and has been happening to people over the centuries. These things cause people much anxiety and terror, but there is no physical harm.


I feel that explains the symptoms that alleged "abductors" claim to have, pretty well!
edit on March 21st 2012 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)


And my guess would be that whomever wrote the conventional details of sleep paralysis would never dream that there exists tons of data supporting UFOs and abductions. So from the point of view of one with genuine UFO experiences of one kind or another, that explanation is just so much denial. Obviously, the Hag Penomena is used as a reason to deny modern abductions. Yet it does nothing more than reinforce the general understanding today that UFOs have been operating here for a very long time.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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I have been taken! I believe you! The creatures like to poison or drug you with like this white powder dust looking substance and they have a red smoke. They love messing with youre airway and get you to a point of where you cannot talk. I have went through the paralysis issue one time years before I was taken. Just yesterday going down the road I felt something in my abdominal area vibrate. This happened two times yesterday. I have never had this happen. I dont have a clue what the heck that was..anyway there is a guy in Southport NC that has filed a report with MUFON. I found out his number and keep it on my cell phone. I plan to visit with him and his family this Summer. This man told me that the Greys are bothering him and his wife and children. He told me that his body vibrates when these beings come around. The Grays are doing things to him and his family and he does not know what to do or who to ask for help. He also told me that he thinks these Greys power up at the Nuclear Plant near his home. The guy is in dispair not knowing what to do..I mean like who do you call?? Or by the time you do call someone for help the damn things are gone.

The damn things have done something to my right ear, and left eye and now my body has started to vibrate..I have been to the doctor numerous times complaining that something was in my ear..the doctor looks and tells me the same thing everytime..it is just red and you have a ear infection.

My right ear usually acts up when these beings come around..they come in stages..they come to Earth and do whatever and bother whomever and then leave and come back at a later time.

It finally got so bad for me that I found a SHAMAN by the name of William White Crow from California whom has helped me more than anyone.



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 12:44 AM
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It fails to mention the "electricity-like" buzzing or vibrations inside ones head before the body becomes gradually paralysed!



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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You are not alone! They bother me to..I know all about being touched by the beings and not being able to see them. Finally after finding a Shaman things have improved. The only problem now is I think they follow me to work and just hang around in the sky. If things get to bad, I just send Clifford Clint with MUFON a message and I send NORAD a message to please just check the sky over NC..of course they never reply..but they do get the message.
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posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 12:55 AM
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Whats up with this Vibrating in Abdominal Area..does this mean a new species messing with me now? Im serious not joking? I have seen Lights, Shadows, Orbs, Large Grey Creatures in my bedroom two times that just appeared and then disappeared. I have seen a full size adult creature the color of the Sun that saved me from a car accident. I have been taken from a Bridge in Charleston, West Virginia and put on another Bridge about 1 or 2 miles from where I was located. I was found walking around in shock. I dont remember what they looked like..other than I knew I had been taken. I felt the worst Fear that I had ever felt in my life. I know of the ones that you cant see and they like to touch you when you are sleeping..which ones do this Vibrate thing and whats next?



posted on Mar, 22 2012 @ 01:07 AM
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Try a DOG..these beings hate DOGS! Eventhough I cant follow my own advise..my boyfriend will not allow me to have a DOG



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