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reply posted on 30-3-2012 @ 02:08 AM by depthoffield
Originally posted by mcrom901
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dof, i suppose you have some hard data re the sts-75 timestamps / water dumps, etc. ?


i hoped that Mr Oberg will FOIA NASA for more data as he promised once, but later he said that this action from him doesn't worth enough in relation with time and energy spent...
As for myself, i'm not an UFO researcher, so i'm too lasy to FOIA etc. Those which says they are UFO researchers shoud do the job, unless all they want really is to sell entertainment or other obscure personal motifs..



Originally posted by The Shrike
You think that the video examples you provided provide the answers to the questions posed by those who do not accept the ice crystals explanation offered by such foru luminaries as Oberg, Phage and others. In reality, the videos create more questions than answers.

Ice crystals leave the shuttle en masse and have been seen to move out in a haphazard manner with no orderly fashion. The are seen set in motion and you know that once a body is in motion it stays in motion. Space UFOs are seen "standing still", drifting slowly and in the middle of a "fleet" others may move in and through in different directions, etc.

One of the biggest problems with the explanation of the alleged thruster firing seen in the STS-48 footage, as Oberg likes to point out, is that the object that materialized out of the earth and is seen drifting and makes an angled turn when the alleged thruster fire affects it although the other objects are not affected. In one of your videos you see thruster firing and yet the white objects that are "claimed" to be ice crystals are not affected at all!

Nice try.



Those examples with ice and debris posted by me a few posts before, were all selected from NASA public shuttle videos, narated by astronauts themselves. How about that. From here: www.nss.org...

So, NASA is very idiot, or very sneaky to release public videos to the press which "create more questions than answers". Or simply NASA thinks we are idiots. ...

In my videos posted above, anybody easy can find examples with debris which make exactly what your alleged UFO's does: stand still, blink, appear from nowhere, have curved trajectories, appears to accelerate, suddenly change trajectories. goes in all directions etc.
Debris around the shuttle really does all of that (or appear to do depending on the camera point of view and shuttle maneuveurs).

So, how can i say those cannot be ice/debris particles?! based on what? Ok, if i am a person which i like to dream at misteries, well, i can feed myself with these low quality grains of "UFO's" ... and even make "quantum theories" like David Sereda with chalk on blachboard

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reply posted on 30-3-2012 @ 08:25 AM by mcrom901
Originally posted by depthoffield
Originally posted by mcrom901
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dof, i suppose you have some hard data re the sts-75 timestamps / water dumps, etc. ?


i hoped that Mr Oberg will FOIA NASA for more data as he promised once, but later he said that this action from him doesn't worth enough in relation with time and energy spent...


so how does one make the connection in that case? does correlation imply causation? i was under the impression, based on the tss data, that 'no thrusters or other gas or water releases were in progress at that time'... moreover, even the fes dump turned out to have been initiated much later... i will look forward to any data which might come to light in the future though
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