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Heavy Mass Object In-Coming?

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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien

It's a theory. That's all this is. But it's one that I happen to believe.


Does your theory have an expiration date? I mean, come 2013 and no catastrophic, near-ELE, can we agree that Nibiru remains a fairytale? 2014? 2015?

If. however, you insist that no date could be set then I would argue that this is more than a mere theory, but rather a desire on your part to be true.




posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:38 PM
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New York Times
January 30, 1983
By, John Noble Wilford


Something out there beyond the farthest reaches of the known solar system seems to be tugging at Uranus and Neptune.Link









Tyche, Giant Hidden Planet, May Exist In Our Solar System




We may have lost Pluto, but it looks like we might be getting Tyche. Scientists may soon be able to prove the existence of the gas giant, which could be four times the size of Jupiter,
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:41 PM
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I'd like to note that the article you've posted is from 1983, many years before one of our spacecraft actually passed through that area of the Solar System. The theory for Planet X has been dead for many years after this flyby, as the pull on the Trans-Neptunian planets has been defined.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:41 PM
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Somethin's tugging at Pluto. What do you suppose it is? A galactic-sized magnet?

how do you know or is this the word of youtube AGAIN.


Sometimes the obvious doesn't need an invitation (aka: acknowledgment) to be real.

Obvious is a Big word, buddy, you sure you can back it up with the obvious
now if I go any further I would be accused of trolling but I dont want to do that I just want to express that the OP has no substance



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:42 PM
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There is no evidence that animals were frozen solid while eating im sorry but that is just wrong. Yes they have found Mammoths with seed pods in their mouths, possibly because they got stuck in a marsh or river and froze like that. Everything they have found about animals "flash" freezing has been debunked.

Yes I know about the 3600 year orbit, that still doesn't answer why we have evoloved to were we are today. If this star or planet really brings on catastrophes on a plantery scale or Earth wide, then in no way should we have evoloved. But here we are.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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Ok, OP.

Let's say there is this other planet out there. Objects existing beyond the known solar system isn't that hard to believe, really, at all.

So what?

That's my point. So what if there is? So what? So what? So what?

If something is in orbit, guess what--it's not going to break orbit to come "close" to the earth, no more than Neptune or Uranus might "break" orbit and suddenly swing into the inner solar system. That's not how orbits work.

So, the question is.....

....so what?



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by ColAngus

Originally posted by Human_Alien

It's a theory. That's all this is. But it's one that I happen to believe.


Does your theory have an expiration date? I mean, come 2013 and no catastrophic, near-ELE, can we agree that Nibiru remains a fairytale? 2014? 2015?

If. however, you insist that no date could be set then I would argue that this is more than a mere theory, but rather a desire on your part to be true.




I haven't given it much thought for I have a life.

But this year seems to be the one I always felt strongest about.
Who knows.
Why do my beliefs (and threads) bother you so much?

This is like asking a Christian if the Apocalypse has an expiration date (or whatever they believe in)

This planet (or star. Or both) and its alleged history rings true to me. I'm really not sure if you're staying after me because I intrigue you, or you're bored or you're just a bully.

If this does NOT do it for you, please find the nearest usher to help escort you on your way out.
Thanks friend



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
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Somethin's tugging at Pluto. What do you suppose it is? A galactic-sized magnet?

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Ok...just for s&g's lets say that there is a "massive rogue planet" out there beyond Pluto, that no ones been able to detect so far in the history of astronomy. why would you, or anyone for that matter, think that it would be headed towards planet Earth?

what mechanism would be able to wrench an entire planet out of it's orbit, and propel it on a collision course with the Earth?



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by camus154
Ok, OP.

Let's say there is this other planet out there. Objects existing beyond the known solar system isn't that hard to believe, really, at all.

So what?

That's my point. So what if there is? So what? So what? So what?

If something is in orbit, guess what--it's not going to break orbit to come "close" to the earth, no more than Neptune or Uranus might "break" orbit and suddenly swing into the inner solar system. That's not how orbits work.

So, the question is.....

....so what?



Well, that's a big so what.

First 'so what' for me would be 'what implications would it have on this planet while I am still on here'
Second would be 'what if this planet has intelligent life'
Third would be 'what would happen when governments and religions crumble at the same time'


Those are three off the top of my head



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien

I haven't given it much thought for I have a life.


Come on, man. You LIVE on this site. You've got a halo box (or whatever it's called) around your posts fer chrissakes.

Don't try to insult me like that. This is bush league, even for you.
edit on 20-3-2012 by ColAngus because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
Well, that's a big so what.

First 'so what' for me would be 'what implications would it have on this planet while I am still on here'
Second would be 'what if this planet has intelligent life'
Third would be 'what would happen when governments and religions crumble at the same time'


What implications did the discovery of Haumea have on this planet, on human life?

You don't even know what Haumea is, do you?

See my point?



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by caf1550
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There is no evidence that animals were frozen solid while eating im sorry but that is just wrong. Yes they have found Mammoths with seed pods in their mouths, possibly because they got stuck in a marsh or river and froze like that. Everything they have found about animals "flash" freezing has been debunked.

Yes I know about the 3600 year orbit, that still doesn't answer why we have evoloved to were we are today. If this star or planet really brings on catastrophes on a plantery scale or Earth wide, then in no way should we have evoloved. But here we are.



How in the world can you say something so emphatically and use the word 'possibly' in the same sentence?

Debate over. Thanks for playing.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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If it is a planet then I feel like there will be absolutely no life on it. Yes I know that life can flourish anywhere and in adverse conditions but lets be serious here, a planet that far out from our sun

1. would barley get any sunlight at all.
2. It would be beyond cold, cold that humans I assume couldn't even fathom.
3. Life is thought to exist or evolve in the Goldilocks Zone around a star, this planet is far beyond the reach of that zone.
4. If its a gas giant then that means there is no or little rock and solid matter, how would intelligent life evolve?



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien

This planet (or star. Or both) and its alleged history rings true to me. I'm really not sure if you're staying after me because I intrigue you, or you're bored or you're just a bully.


Or maybe you post in topics that I feel strongly about as well?

Don't flatter yourself. I'm more concerned about blatant fear-mongering and its effect on the susceptible than I am on whether you actually believe in fairytales like Nibiru, chemtrails, sun portals, whatever.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by camus154

Originally posted by Human_Alien
Well, that's a big so what.

First 'so what' for me would be 'what implications would it have on this planet while I am still on here'
Second would be 'what if this planet has intelligent life'
Third would be 'what would happen when governments and religions crumble at the same time'


What implications did the discovery of Haumea have on this planet, on human life?

You don't even know what Haumea is, do you?

See my point?



Ya know what? When you have an 'experience' come back and we'll chat it up but until then, enjoy your box that you call your paradigm



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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I was giving you a reason as to way they would be found like that, POSSIBLY because they got bogged down, got stuck into a marsh, fell into a river. Those aren't good enough answer for you.

An animal that big cannot just "flash" freeze.

im glad your so mature about it though.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by ColAngus

Originally posted by Human_Alien

This planet (or star. Or both) and its alleged history rings true to me. I'm really not sure if you're staying after me because I intrigue you, or you're bored or you're just a bully.


Or maybe you post in topics that I feel strongly about as well?

Don't flatter yourself. I'm more concerned about blatant fear-mongering and its effect on the susceptible than I am on whether you actually believe in fairytales like Nibiru, chemtrails, sun portals, whatever.


It's okay, ATS doesn't need anymore hall monitors.

Don't concern yourself with others.
That's lesson number one.

Just be kind to others. You don't have to be alike to like one another.

Stay well.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by caf1550
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I was giving you a reason as to way they would be found like that, POSSIBLY because they got bogged down, got stuck into a marsh, fell into a river. Those aren't good enough answer for you.

An animal that big cannot just "flash" freeze.

im glad your so mature about it though.


I am NOT God. I do NOT know. Stop asking me all these hypothetical.

I get it.
You disagree.
So does your buddy riding shot-gun with you.

What do you want me to say? You're right?

Okay.

You're right

Mods, remove this thread!

Feel better?

I really don't like to argue.
I post threads to share and get opinions. I got yours. I get you and I've had enough.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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Then if this planet's alleged history, as laid down by Zechariah Sitchin, rings true to you why do believe that it will return this year? Sitchin himself said it wouldn't return until around 2900. It was Nancy Lieder who tried to connect Nibiru with 2012 after her other predictions fell through.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
Ya know what? When you have an 'experience' come back and we'll chat it up but until then, enjoy your box that you call your paradigm


Is that supposed to be a clever evasion?

For the edification of the rest of the thread, Haumea is a dwarf planet that was discovered in 2004.

I think you know quite well what my point is. The discovery of another body in the solar system doesn't necessarily mean anything significant whatsoever...in fact, odds are it would be just as insignificant as the discovery of Haumea, the dwarf planet that virtually nobody's heard of.

Why? Because it has no real bearing on earthly life.

So perhaps you can explain the enormous leap of logic between Discovery of New Planet to World Governments collapsing, since of course you took that leap without so much as a whisper.




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