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Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by nenothtu
The remnant of what is Roman Catholic?
The so-called Great Warning, the day Jesus returns, there will be an annihilation or some such thing of all other Christian sects.....
colbe says the only ones left of all the Christian faiths/sects to be going to heaven will be the Catholics.
Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
reply to post by wildtimes
Throughout the ages the Church as had bad Popes. Popes made by political appointments, Popes that had STDs and have had children. No doubt they have lost many followers and many stayed because when you believe something you do not allow the bad actions of others to dissuade you. What I see as my truths didn't change.
Could we get together to protest this? We all got hit with the same bullet. We were in shock. I know of a Priest that broke down during the Consecration and put his head on the altar and sobbed when local abuses were made known. My pastor told me: "Now people assume we are guilty." The diocesan newspaper openly acknowledged that Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope) held a position in the Church that meant he had the authority for what happened with the priest shuffling. My friends and I talked about these issues including Fr.Maciel (Opus Dei) over breakfast alot. One was a former Opus Dei member. She was smart to see his demand for complete submission to him was evil and got out before their scandal was made public.
I have mentioned Ratzingers involvement on ATS..
The media stories told the tale. We didn't need to protest.
Well, I did just email the pope a few days ago about his designer cologne. I wonder if anyone ever called him "Dude" before?.edit on 3/20/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: add a ?edit on 3/20/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by sad_eyed_lady
Could we get together to protest this? We all got hit with the same bullet. We were in shock. I know of a Priest that broke down during the Consecration and put his head on the altar and sobbed when local abuses were made known. My pastor told me: "Now people assume we are guilty."
The diocesan newspaper openly acknowledged that Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope) held a position in the Church that meant he had the authority for what happened with the priest shuffling. My friends and I talked about these issues including Fr.Maciel (Opus Dei) over breakfast alot. One was a former Opus Dei member. She was smart to see his demand for complete submission to him was evil and got out before their scandal was made public.
Okay, thanks very much for that lucid response.
You are right, through out history, especially during the middle ages and pre-Reformation...it was all about politics and control.
How does the Church now explain the Crusades, the Inquisition, the witch-hunts, the Nero burnings? Do they excuse it?
Look the other way?
What do you think happened to Pope John Paul? Were you aware of his having exposed some things right before he "died" (I assume you were)....if you found out he'd been murdered to cover things up, how would you react?
I really appreciate your participation here, sad-eyed-lady.
I'm in the Midwest also.
Are you going to promote Santorum?
ETA: LOL! You called him "dude"? You go, girl!
I'm not above calling anyone Dude. That's what he is, a man. Do you see him as the actual spokesperson for God?
edit on 20-3-2012 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)
I have protested, voted, written letters to congress, presidents, ambassadors, etc. Yet the violence doesn't stop. Should I be blamed now by friends and relatives of victims of U.S. violence for not renouncing U.S. citizenship?
I still believe in a certain core of American ideal. I can understand how a Roman Catholic may also hold a certain core belief without being part of scandalous behavior and official policy of cover up.
First off, none of us really care how you see it. Second, the RCC is one of the few incubator of understanding left in this world after it has been poisoned with moral relativism, liberalism, individualism, secularism; all wrapped up within modernity. I chose the Catholic faith because it holds the absolute truths as real, self-evident, and emanating from the divine. And as stated before, I know the history of the Church as I do the history of men. The Christian teachings clearly state man is a fallen creation, prone to sin. How can we look upon history and deny this?
Finally, I am not a ‘modern person’. Modernity is an outright disaster and I refuse to accept it as valid. As commonly accepted ideas on values, government, politics, and so on are monsters. You are, as the other 95%+ of people, a member of this ungodly group.
How many people have died in the name of Christ, Christianity and Catholicism?
VICTIMS OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH by Kelsos
Listed are only events that solely occurred on command of church authorities or were committed in the name of Christianity. (List incomplete)
I have been away, didn't see this. It's incorrect. The Great Warning is to save souls, a 2nd Pentecost for the entire world. No one is going to be annihilated, we only need to make a choice.
This is disgusting.
You are wrong lady.
...snipped ignorant lie...
Shame on you, you make Our Lord a liar.
What's wrong with you, you are suppose to defend the faith? I thought
you were Roman Catholic. Doesn't sound it.
for being adult and addressing the issues at hand, unlike you.
Sad eyed lady,
Wake up. You have the OP's approval.
She started this thread to
get the responses you just gave her.
slandering me again
... she is ignorant about the faith but you are not ignorant.
wildtimes laughs at and mocks Santorum, a good man, how can you ignore?
She needs our prayers. She is foolish.
Ah! I see! You are the person this thread was directed toward.
Anyone else notice Colby mostly ignores peoples questions?
I've seen at least 3 different threads where people including myself ask him relevent question, and he completely ignores them... yet continues to pound out those prohpecies...
Not like anyone reads them anymore either way though...
I agree with wildtimes... hes not a good representitive for Catholics on these forums. I'd actually say he likely pushes people away from the religion, even thnough he tells people it is the ONLY religion.... and assumes everyone will convert eventually
Let me apologize for being so aggressive. It was completely unnecessary and entirely my fault. As for calling you names, why would you necessarily be offended by what I had called you?
The enquiry of Vatican representatives on the abuses perpetrated by the clergy has come to an end. The verdict: “Inadequate and unable to contain the number of cases of paedophilia”
The Vatican is clamping down on Irish bishops. Rather than a real investigation, the enquiry carried out by the Vatican was more an explanation of the reason why Benedict XVI is about to cut ecclesiastical hierarchies down to zero. “Controls were omitted, bishops and religious superiors were inadequate and incapable of monitoring and containing the spread of extremely serious cases of paedophilia in the clergy. The culprits went unpunished and the victims were treated with indifference.” At the end of the apostolic visit to Ireland, the Holy See prepares a damning report on the Irish crisis concerning paedophile priests.
The island will be struck by a complete change of tactics. New cases will be reported immediately and the Pope will personally intervene to change “the current configuration of the dioceses in order to make diocesan structures better suited to deal with the current mission.” It is time now for all the bishops that covered up the truth regarding paedophile priests (7 have already resigned) to take their leave and the cooperation between dioceses will see a smaller number of better quality priests. The Holy See “feels embarrassed and betrayed by the sinful and criminal acts at the root of this crisis.”
This plague started in 2005 with government committees documenting thousands of child abuse cases at the hands of hundreds of priests starting from the thirties and stretching through the following decades (the last reported case dates back to more or less ten years ago)
Victims will be given the utmost priority and culprits will be handed over to the "civil Authorities and to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.”
Originally posted by colbe
She needs our prayers. She is foolish.
Nothing more strangely indicates an enormous and silent evil of modern society than the extraordinary use which is made nowadays of the word "orthodox." In former days the heretic was proud of not being a heretic. It was the kingdoms of the world and the police and the judges who were heretics. He was orthodox. He had no pride in having rebelled against them; they had rebelled against him. The armies with their cruel security, the kings with their cold faces, the decorous processes of State, the reasonable processes of law--all these like sheep had gone astray. The man was proud of being orthodox, was proud of being right. If he stood alone in a howling wilderness he was more than a man; he was a church. He was the centre of the universe; it was round him that the stars swung. All the tortures torn out of forgotten hells could not make him admit that he was heretical. But a few modern phrases have made him boast of it. He says, with a conscious laugh, "I suppose I am very heretical," and looks round for applause. The word "heresy" not only means no longer being wrong; it practically means being clear-headed and courageous. The word "orthodoxy" not only no longer means being right; it practically means being wrong. All this can mean one thing, and one thing only. It means that people care less for whether they are philosophically right. For obviously a man ought to confess himself crazy before he confesses himself heretical. The Bohemian, with a red tie, ought to pique himself on his orthodoxy. The dynamiter, laying a bomb, ought to feel that, whatever else he is, at least he is orthodox.
Originally posted by wildtimes
The Roman Catholic Church has ruined or ended more lives than all wars put together.
Do you not know history?
Originally posted by Afterthought
Make no mistake. The Catholic Church is THE richest organization in the world.