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Blacklisted as 'Trouble Makers' UK

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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Blacklisted as ‘Troublemakers,’ UK Construction Workers Struggle for Justice


I just saw this on RT news, although I cannot find an RT link at this point.



For years, they wondered why they kept getting turned down for jobs, even when they seemed well qualified. The workers might have all just chalked it up to bad luck if they hadn't eventually discovered they were at the center of an extraordinary conspiracy.




An investigation by the U.K. governments Information Commissioners Office (ICO) in 2009 revealed that some of the countrys most prominent construction firms had worked with a secretive company, The Consulting Association, to create a blacklist of workers with a history of being suspected troublemakers or labor advocates. As fresh details have recently surfaced in the British media, the scandal has taken on shades of a British crime thriller, a Sunday tabloid and a treatise on the English working class.


inthesetimes.com...



Police are linked to blacklist of construction workers Security services 'gave data to clandestine organisation funded by major names in building industry'




The police or security services supplied information to a blacklist funded by the country's major construction firms that has kept thousands of people out of work over the past three decades.





Its database was seized nearly three years ago, but the extraordinary nature of the information held has only now emerged, following an employment tribunal for one of the victims, Dave Smith, a 46-year-old engineer who had a 36-page file against his name and was victimised repeatedly for highlighting safety hazards on sites, including the presence of asbestos.



www.guardian.co.uk... ce-blacklist-link-construction-workers

So it turns out the Americans aren't the only ones being #ed over by their Gov. Our construction workers are deemed as "Left Wing" trouble makers for simple protesting their rights. If you didn't think you were being monitored before, fellow UKers, now you know you are.

Add that to the show of Guns at the NHS protests, and the fact we are the most CCTV monitored Nation.....I better get off ATS before they come knocking my door.

Shame I cant find an RT link, they were discussing its further implications.
edit on Tue Mar 20 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: corrected link, IMPORTANT: Using Content From Other Websites on ATS



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Absolutely brilliant! We need to crack down on the Unions and crush them. If you have a job, you do it. If you refuse to do it, you should be fired on the spot, and your job can be given to someone who is willing to work. For far too long, we have been held hostages by these communists and socialists, it's time for them to be removed from sight all together.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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The only problem there is many of these people were black listed for protesting for better health and safety...A worthy cause I believe.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by Sinny
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The only problem there is many of these people were black listed for protesting for better health and safety...A worthy cause I believe.


I bet there's a lot more to the story than what we're being told as to the reasons for being blacklisted.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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Really, why would you want to crush the unions? They have protected the rights of workers against exploitative business's. Why do you think these Building companies want to black list these people? So they can continue with their dodgy practices and employ cheap immigrant labour without anyone making a fuss about it. It's called a race to the bottom and you my friend are advocating it.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Oh of course, all part of NWO lol....did you hear someone in parliament suggested taxing us on oxygen?? They calculated how much we breath on average too

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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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"Absolutely brilliant! We need to crack down on the Unions and crush them. If you have a job, you do it. If you refuse to do it, you should be fired on the spot, and your job can be given to someone who is willing to work. For far too long, we have been held hostages by these communists and socialists, it's time for them to be removed from sight all together. "

Thats a bit harsh dont you think? We need trade unions and there like so employers give the work force a fair deal, which they dont my friend. A fair days pay for a fair days work went the way of the dinosaurs when that evil woman Lady Thatcher smashed the UK unions in the 80s.
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Become a whistleblower at a construction company and you'll end up on this list!

Many of these companies have been robbing clients and their own companies for years and they don't need honest workers, they need "Yes" men to sign something off when told to and not question dodgy acts!

These companies that pay for names on the list have no integrity either and you're better off being on the list as any honest worker would not want to work for them!

My partner was a whistleblower , the company restructured so they could get rid of her!

But being on this list don't bother her because of the above reasons!
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by andy06shake
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Thats a bit harsh dont you think? We need trade unions and there like so employers give the work force a fair deal, which they dont my friend. A fair days pay for a fair days work went the way of the dinosaurs when that evil woman Lady Thatcher smashed the UK unions in the 80s.
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You have a boss. Your boss is in charge. Your boss can choose to pay you as much as he likes over the Minimum Wage, or he can choose to pay you Minimum Wage. You are completely deluded if you as a worker, think you have the right to demand anything. If you don't like how much you get paid, find another job.

Thatcher was only the second PM to have truely cared about the direction this country and people were going in, and that is what makes her both an amazing woman in the past and today, but also the second greatest PM after Churchill.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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The Unions held the country to ransom. They *needed* smashing.

They started off benign enough and served a valid purpose, but then they realised they had a real power, and could hold the country to ransom, and did so. At that point, they crossed the line from supporting and representing their workforce, to making demands with threats.

At that point, the government, lead by Lady Thatcher, had to take action, or lose control of the country to a bunch of unelected bodies.

Smashing the power of the unions was the only valid choice, at that point in history. Sorry.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by BMorris
The Unions held the country to ransom. They *needed* smashing.

They started off benign enough and served a valid purpose, but then they realised they had a real power, and could hold the country to ransom, and did so. At that point, they crossed the line from supporting and representing their workforce, to making demands with threats.

At that point, the government, lead by Lady Thatcher, had to take action, or lose control of the country to a bunch of unelected bodies.

Smashing the power of the unions was the only valid choice, at that point in history. Sorry.


Look at the power these socialists and communists hold over London. They frequently grind our city to a complete halt, so they can demand completely outrageous pay rises and cheques for no other reason than greed.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Read my post above and educate yourself!

If a company is corrupt, ie: Dodging health and safety and or syphoning monies......We have a problem!

This "Blacklist" is the corrupt companies way of protecting their interests......And you agree with it??

And you also "think" Thatcher was a positive person for the UK??

Hmmm......how old are you may I ask?
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Yeah, we are much better off, now we have closed all the mines and killed of industry in the UK not to mention privatising all our utilities. Its much better private companies profit from our rail network and our utilities and tax system and now the NHS. The shortsightedness of here today, gone tomorrow politicians from all parties have pretty much landed us in the mess we are in today.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by zerozero00
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Read my post above and educate yourself!

If a company is corrupt, ie: Dodging health and safety and or syphoning monies......We have a problem!

This "Blacklist" is the corrupt companies way of protecting their interests......And you agree with it??

And you also "think" Thatcher was a positive person for the UK??

Hmmm......how old are you may I ask?
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No you may not ask how old I am.

I do not "think" Thatcher was a positive person, SHE WAS A POSITIVE PERSON. PERIOD. She wanted to remove the stranglehold that unions keep ordinary people under, and she was largely sucessful, thank god. Now you people don't have a say.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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What?
The state/police collaborating with big corporations to make databases of known so called "troublemakers" ?
But that can't be happening in our beloved "free"UK can it?

Because if it is-That is fascism pure and simple.

How far we have fallen.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Now you people don't have a say.

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Then why are you so concerned about Unions. It seems you have the race to the bottom, you so obviously desire.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr



Now you people don't have a say.

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Then why are you so concerned about Unions. It seems you have the race to the bottom, you so obviously desire.



Because I wish to see these organisations completely destroyed and consigned to the bin.



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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I must chime in and say: Of course we need the Union. Just like we need the FOIA, Freedom of speech, and the Ability to protest.

This is one reason why. These people used their rights as union members to call concern over the state of health and safety. Completely legitimate.

Although I'll say my self, all the strikes I saw this year, were horrendous! Over pay rises....under different circumstances had this nation been flourishing, why not? But the cheek of coming to a standstill when these worker are better off then most the country, is ridiculous.

So it comes with the good and the bad, but doesn't everything?

Doesn't mean we should take away our own rights though does it??



posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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If you were Scottish or a minner/steel worker, old enough to remember the poll tax your opinion on Lady Thatcher would be somewhat different i imagine! Oh and Winston Churchill put tanks on the streets of Glasgow in the 30s hardly the mark of a great man im afraid. I do however have to give him some praise for our nation's defence in WWII.
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posted on Mar, 20 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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