Originally posted by jmdewey60
The fact that there are myths based on different people's idea of what God is
does not somehow make the existence of God a non-reality.
The desire to be pleasing to whatever individuals think of as god, is the bases for a lot of past cultures and they did pretty well as long as they held to those beliefs. Christianity, for example sets the standard of what God desires from a person higher than they see themselves ever achieving, and so it precludes people ever being satisfied with their self achievements, and are always striving to be just a little bit better. This sort of attitude is what I think is what is needed to save the world. God is the giver of rewards, and what makes it all worthwhile in the end, giving us the gift of a new life in the wold beyond this life and death scenario we find ourselves currently in.edit on 31-3-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
It makes God a myth, as I have pointed out.
It has been proven to me, even though I did not ask for proof, but just the things I needed to keep being alive. I never had any doubts because God has been with me as long as I have been around. For example, I had someone aim a gun at my head and fire it at point blank and he didn't pull the trigger a second time, probably in a slight state of shock. But I realize people don't have that happen, and do get shot every day. I don't have an explanation other than it is up to God whether He chooses to intervene. The fact that it may not seem fair does not explain it away that strange things happen. I have a long list of times God intervened, to where as far as I can tell, God came and personally talked to me and took a hold of me, if that was what I needed at that time. In other cases, God came to people in visions to get them to either help me, or to not try to harm me. As strange as this might seem, the reality is even stranger than is easy to describe.
God is nothing more than a myth, unless it is proven otherwise.
Of course but people are hard wired to believe in God, so you have to have a good religion to take the place of the old, bad religion.
The sort of attitude needed to save the world, is people waking up and realizing that religion is, has been, and always will be a form of control, manipulation, and a means to induce secular humanism.
Hmm. That may be a problem, and people need to be held responsible for the harm they do, and not allowed to hide behind religion as protection from justice.
Keep in mind, there's other religions other than yours. For example, in the Quran, Jihad is allowed under Islamic law. They are allowed to wage war against dissenters of Islam, and think they will be rewarded for it. Hence suicide bombers. Is this okay to do in your religion? Or is only your religion the 'right' one?
Religion should unite people in a sort of way to where we see ourselves as being regarded by God as being on the same level, and that no one is exempt from doing what is right. I think it is natural to think of someone who cares how you behave, and it could be pictured as your dead ancestors, or your future descendants, and in the absence of those things, to think of how we are all made in the image of God and so all have an intrinsic value as human beings.
All religion does is separate people. What's right for one religion, is wrong for another.
People should stop buying into all the "God wants me to" BS, and start living for humanity.
An unaccountable elite is always destructive and attracts sociopaths to those positions, so there should never be religions designed as hierarchical institutions.
Religion has always been a disease. It has caused more deaths, wars, and other horrible unjustifiable acts throughout history than anything else. As long as religion is in the picture, humanity will take one step back for every two steps forward it takes. Religion is disgusting, no matter how great you think your intentions are.
Originally posted by paradox
Originally posted by sting130u
As for upsetting me, you wish you upset me I can see this. Truth is, you didn't.
I wish? Keep in mind, you responded to my post with ad hominem insults!
One does not call someone a 'moron' unless they are upset
Why would I waste the energy on you? You have wasted enough time on me, and seem to only attack my posts.
I don't know, why are you? It seems you like to ridicule others for pointing out facts.
And once again, you chose to respond to my post. As a bully, you can not also be the victim.
You don't want to believe in God, fine. I can't change your mind, no one can. It is up to you to look at the evidence. And all you have is "God is a myth". Which contributed nothing to the thread, just someone putting in their two cents in four short words.
There is absolutely no evidence, and God is a myth, as I proved with definitions. It is not my problem if you choose to remain ignorant to the definition of words.
My evidence of God looks at me every day, hugs me, kisses me, calls me daddy, and depends on me just as I depend on God to provide for me. Has God provided for me? Absolutely. The evidence of God is in all creation, in every life form, in every star, planet, water drop, etc. Your choice to be blind to all the good in the world is your choice alone. The evidence of God mounts up against the lack of evidence. In fact, without God, everything would be dark, null, and void. You can thank Him for your chance to ridicule strangers on the internet, because without Him life would cease to exist.
So because life exists, God must exist. Because you have a kid, God exists.
Sorry, but that's some really lousy 'evidence,' because it has not proved a single thing.
God is still a myth.
When I hear of hate, war, murder, adultery, corruption, stealing, pedophilia, rape, and so much more, I can come home from all that and see my beautiful family and all the good that happens around the world amidst the chaos and evil and I just know that God exists, because without God, the evil would completely take over. When its good vs evil, the good will prevail with God's intervention, because good people do not want to do bad, but bad people do NOT care!! Notice the world isn't blown up, destroyed, or completely unlivable. This takes divine intervention from a higher being, because if it was up to the leaders of the world we would be imprisoned and used as cattle.
More religious blabber proving absolutely nothing.
Your choice, the winning side or the losing side. Looks like you made your choice, and in your poorly made decision you decide to put on the table "God is a myth" to sway others. I have been more than positive in everything I have said. I have been constructive, while you sir, have been destructive. Good luck in your future endeavors..
You're right, insulting others and calling them a moron for pointing out your obvious misuse of a word and failure to understand definitions is destructive.
Asking for proof of assertive claims which you so militantly defend, by once again, ad hominem insults, must be destructive as well.
I choose not to believe in fairy tales.
edit on 3-31-12 by paradox because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sting130u
No, I called you a moron not out of being upset, but because you are being moronic.
I never insulted you, your being a moron.
Sometimes I am a moron. And your definition of myth is so BROAD that it applies to many things over.
I don't have to prove jack squat to you.
Who are you? Your no one to me. Just another lost pathetic soul who trolls ATS boards looking for a fight. In my opinion, this kinda makes you a loser. Just my opinion, anyways.
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
1 John 2:6
He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
I never insulted, I was being honest. I understood the term "myth", and I understood how you used it. You are the one that misunderstood how I used it. Maybe I worded it wrong, here, lets try again, since you seem to be soooo hung up about it.
"In the future, to future generations, you will be a myth as well. The only basis of your existence will be stories of what others will tell of you. Or of your ATS posts, whichever comes first."
You seem to be angry at God about something. Whatever it is, its not His fault. It's your own fault for being such a negative person, you have embodied yourself into this negative dark world. Good luck releasing yourself from that.
ETA: Stop laughing at your own comments and giving yourself thumbs up. This really makes you look all the more of a jackass.edit on 1-4-2012 by sting130u because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by satron
Originally posted by reaxi0n
How exactly is he a troll? I have not seen him do anything besides ask for proof of others claims, and provide definitions to clearly misused words.
You're the last one to be talking. I have seen you troll numerous religious threads under the guise of "agnostic", though you are clearly theist, quoting the bible in your thread titled "I'm going to stop Armageddon"
You claim to be agnostic so you can only question atheists without having to deal with the burden of proving the claim that God exists,
because you know you can't, and you would just sound stupid.
You can not disprove the existence of god, because god is mythical and has never existed.
You have not provided anything to this thread besides coming in and attacking a member for asking for proof to claims.
This site is about denying ignorance.
If you can't manage that, then you're clearly in the wrong place and belong on a Christian board where you can all pat each other on the back and tell each other how awesome they are and how cool god is.
Your one line insults, clearly disregarding the Terms and Conditions of this website that you agreed to upon signing up, shows what your true intentions are. That is called trolling, my friend, which makes you a troll. Well if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, then I don't know what is!!!
Now, if you would really like to shock me, ask sting up there for proof that god exists.
Oh wait, you won't, because he is a fellow theist!
Now, as for the topic at hand, it appears the OP has been banned. Probably for his numerous threads purely based on opinion and providing no facts what so ever. With that, I would just like to say that the OP is absolutely not proof of anything. It's actually not even close to proof. In fact, it fails to resemble proof in any way, that I'm not even sure what to call it besides bs. If anyone here has REAL PROOF, I, and many others would surely love to see it.
Originally posted by sting130u
Wow, your still at it? Do you not have a job?
I do, by the good grace of God.
And again, you are a myth, or at least will be when all that is left of you is documents, such as the scriptures of God.
Goodbye, paradox. I wish you the best in life.
Originally posted by ZakOlongapo
..i just awake up and this post is on my screen... did U talk about the god guys? which one??? =)
Originally posted by XxForgottenLegendxX
Originally posted by Garfee
Originally posted by vnmusic
reply to post by diamondsmith
We'are all one with GOD.
Just that our mind fool us until dealth.
Wow, that's pretty cool that you know that for a fact!
Welcome to the 21st century.