CIA threatens Australian coal industry: Palmer

Originally posted by Jace26
Honestly this has to be said;

AMERICANS LEAVE AUSTRALIA ALONG YOU #ING IDIOTS

JUST BECAUSE YOUR ECONOMY IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN DON'T DRAG US WITH YOU

All Americans promise to leave Australia "ALONG YOU #ING IDIOTS." You might want to look into the trade between the two countries and try to understand international economics.

Originally posted by pteridine

Originally posted by Jace26
Honestly this has to be said;

AMERICANS LEAVE AUSTRALIA ALONG YOU #ING IDIOTS

JUST BECAUSE YOUR ECONOMY IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN DON'T DRAG US WITH YOU

All Americans promise to leave Australia "ALONG YOU #ING IDIOTS." You might want to look into the trade between the two countries and try to understand international economics.

The cringe factor, for me, as an Aussie is that he doesn't understand how America's economy is integral to Australia's. Like you said, we need the trade, but more so we need the stability and the status quot.

That's after we factor in that "going down the drain" has nothing at all to do with the topic.

He might be some kind of troll, ignoramus or something. They are the only ones who can read a story and get it so wrong.

I don't see much news here. It would have to be proven.

I fail to see how the greens deliberately damage Australian coal industry, ind if so, what is the real benefit, since it only means it will be less competitive, so they'll sell much less, but it will still be in the ground. This is too much short term thinking.

On the other hand...
The coal industry is a complete dog. I would be less surprised if the whole story was concocted by the industry as they have a proven track record of using the media and giving their cause unlimited funds.

It's CIA v Australian coal
CIA has absolutely no chance, none.

reply to post by squandered


The CIA has no chance?

The CIA has a budget larger than the entire Australian economy combined.

This all fits in together with the Kevin Rudd Coup which was financed by the CIA through informer Mark Arbib.

Julia didnt need the Green alliance but chose to go that route anyway...proving they are both fed by the same hand.

After promising not to introduce a Carbon Tax before she was put in power by the independants she backflipped.....why?

Because her CIA handlers told her she had to to make the Coal industry unviable in Australia so America's could prosper.


Australia is the little bitch at the party being passed around to all the other footy players!

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
This all fits in together with the Kevin Rudd Coup which was financed by the CIA through informer Mark Arbib.

Julia didnt need the Green alliance but chose to go that route anyway...proving they are both fed by the same hand.

After promising not to introduce a Carbon Tax before she was put in power by the independants she backflipped.....why?

Because her CIA handlers told her she had to to make the Coal industry unviable in Australia so America's could prosper.


Australia is the little bitch at the party being passed around to all the other footy players!

Your right all the peices fit the puzzle.

The CIA is financing the Carbon and Mining Taxes to destroy the wealth of Australia, therefore allowing American interests to grow.
Kevin Rudd was desposed maybe because he refused to submit.

reply to post by TrueBrit


Well, even without solid evidence, I believe Mr. Palmer. I had 55 years of cloak and dagger with the feds and state government, and therein lies the source of all evil and horror. Solid evidence is either difficult to obtain or difficult to publicize effectively, those who can and are likely to be dead long before they do. That is the nature of the best, my friends, but if you examine closely the behaviors of Rockefeller, Gates, the CIA... you'll find plenty enough to convict them without direct evidence, at least that's how the game is played. Uh, what's the saying, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck??? Oh, yeah, it's duck tape.

Originally posted by Jace26
reply to post by squandered

 

The CIA has no chance?

The CIA has a budget larger than the entire Australian economy combined.

So do Australian mining companies. Please remember that we are talking about all of them even if we are only talking about coal mining.

Regardless, I didn't say they have no chance because they have less backing. Anyone should realise that this fact is a given. I already gave my reason why I think there is nothing in it for America / CIA etc.

1. CIA devastate the Australian coal mining industry using the greens and the carbon tax, plus some minor ecological issues.
Let's say there is a chance this could have a real affect.

Australia's economy is damaged. The dollar goes back to about 50c to $1USD. How much will America have to bolster their own industry now? They will spend 10 x as many billions fixing the -problem they created.

Really!!
How do you expect the CIA to harm Australia?
The mining companies are massive. They don't take #. They got rid of our last PM because it suited them, but CIA is the bad guy.

You guys are just pathetic. Sorry, I couldn't side with the blind idiocy that is conspiracy theorists.

I call it political suicide.
This whole thing is sour grapes!

See this link CIA hits back at Palmer conspiracy claims

Nobody, but nobody ios taking this guys crazy conspiracy theories for real. I mean CIA really!, lol...

I concur with most of the posts here. Even though Australian politics is a cesspool at the moment, I would believe bob brown over a mining magnate, not that I believe either without proof.

Does anyone else find it strange that this made it into the pop news? I can't remember the last news story that made the CIA or rockafellas look bad, let alone both in one story...

PALMer is correct fully, he was fighting with the Zionist prick frank lowy only two weeks ago remember. He knows the bigger story

We all know without doubt that there is always a hidden hand, that orchestrates political agendas for specific gain.

reply to post by daaskapital


And ant that ashame. Selling of the countries assets buy the boat load, long term destruction, short term profit and little sustainability. I am guessing you would also promote GAS fracturing, if we consider only the economic value of what we do. The bottom line is that the general public get little from the mass mining of Aussie.

The only true gain is for the share holders, the billionaires, as well as any empire that hangs of the host, or the farmers who sell off their land to some foreign national, and a few workers.

The general public, gets reduced access to land, as some mine now owns it. There are towns with no accommodation, but vacant houses sitting idle. Jobs for the locals, you mean the new locals. Increased accommodation costs for those that live in the town. Lots of ponse mobile's, new boutique cafes. I could go on.

If your really unlucky some God fearing company from the good old USofA might buy your only local shop and cease selling beer, as it does not fit in with their religious concepts. And were worried about alphabet organizations screwing us. That has already been done by our politicians and we chose temporary comfort instead of freedom.

Originally posted by marsend
reply to post by daaskapital

 

And ant that ashame. Selling of the countries assets buy the boat load, long term destruction, short term profit and little sustainability. I am guessing you would also promote GAS fracturing, if we consider only the economic value of what we do. The bottom line is that the general public get little from the mass mining of Aussie.

The only true gain is for the share holders, the billionaires, as well as any empire that hangs of the host, or the farmers who sell off their land to some foreign national, and a few workers.

The general public, gets reduced access to land, as some mine now owns it. There are towns with no accommodation, but vacant houses sitting idle. Jobs for the locals, you mean the new locals. Increased accommodation costs for those that live in the town. Lots of ponse mobile's, new boutique cafes. I could go on.

If your really unlucky some God fearing company from the good old USofA might buy your only local shop and cease selling beer, as it does not fit in with their religious concepts. And were worried about alphabet organizations screwing us. That has already been done by our politicians and we chose temporary comfort instead of freedom.

edit on 21-3-2012 by marsend because: typo

To true. Leave it in the ground until we have a stable gov't with more than 3 years forward thinking. I don't think mining companies deserve more than 50% of the profit and if that makes mining in Australia unfeasible, let them use up the rest of the worlds resources. Okay, maybe I'm going a bit far, but the small measures that the Greens are good for don't damage the industry that much and if CIA want's to enact this, it just means that big mining interests in the US will use up their resources faster... for nothing.

I don't see how the CIA are involved. To me they are just as likely to support Australia's multinational mining companies as American. It's not like America is more than a corporation to them anyway...

Australian mining companies would be laughing at the people who willingly buy into this brand of conspiracy. They've finally caught onto the Americanized mindset that propaganda can pulverize an issue and make people have definite positions that aren't based on what they want - just the perception of the lessor evil.

CIA in this case is the stooge.

The idea that the CIA is in cahoots with the Australian greens is ludicrous, its far more likely that the CIA would be actively trying to undermine the greens seeing as they are a left of center socialist party once you take away their environmentalist front. The CIA and and of course big business have been at war with anything socialist or communist since the cold war.

What I have noticed here in Australia in recent years is a concerted campaign by the resource industries and the Murdoch controlled press who are supporters of any multinational company to destroy any party or person that tries to take some of those ridiculous profits of theirs and redistribute them to the greater community.

The world has a huge demand for resources, Australia has a huge supply of resources. Right now, foreign owned companies are pillaging australias resources. Some benefit goes back into the community through jobs and suppoting industries but its not proportional. Honestly, if Australia Nationalized its mines, and all profits went to a National fund and stayed in Australia, we would be an extremely wealthy country capable of just about anything, I dont understand how people cant see that. Of course TTB would go to great lengths to stop that wouldn't they, just look at what they do if you try and introduce a tax on mining company profits..

reply to post by AussieDingus


alCIAda gangsters doing it again.

Yeah so they are trying to shutdown competitors to rockefeller oil interests?

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
This all fits in together with the Kevin Rudd Coup which was financed by the CIA through informer Mark Arbib.

Julia didnt need the Green alliance but chose to go that route anyway...proving they are both fed by the same hand.

After promising not to introduce a Carbon Tax before she was put in power by the independants she backflipped.....why?

Because her CIA handlers told her she had to to make the Coal industry unviable in Australia so America's could prosper.


Australia is the little bitch at the party being passed around to all the other footy players!

lol.

Well over here in america they already cut the american people out of the loop altogether.

I am sorry our illegitimate corporate terrorist organization pretending to be a intelligence organization is damaging your countries economy to make a trillionaire banking family more wealthy.

reply to post by daaskapital

We are sick off being the bitch in this relationship off allies.

Better get used to it.

...hopefully then, our country becomes stronger.

Not going to happen...refer to above...

Originally posted by Cosmic911
reply to post by daaskapital

 

We are sick off being the bitch in this relationship off allies.

Better get used to it.

...hopefully then, our country becomes stronger.

Not going to happen...refer to above...

Wow, you're an areshole.

Australia is already used to it, and have been since the cold war.

Yes, we will become stronger as a country once breaking from the Commonwealth. The power is also shifting to the Asia Pacific region, and the USA/UK has to rely on Australia for once.

We have some of the cheapest resources (coal, uranium, iron ore etc) in the entire world, much of which is located fairly close to the ocean: when there is such a valuable resource just sitting there, it's going to be nigh impossible to prevent it from coming out of the ground. The point of the mining tax is not to destroy the mining industry, but to help share some of the profits with Australia. In 2011, BHP Billiton had a revenue of US$ 71.7 billion and a profit of US$ 21.7 billion. As a proportion of revenue, more profit was made than even Apple (!!!). I really like what the mining companies do (and I may apply to work for them later in the year, (I like money)) but in some ways it would be stupid not to tax them when they're making so much money from national resources.

Additionally we have fairly large energy resources: failing to export them would hurt the United States since they import a large amount of energy (plus they can import some from us or have more fun in the middle east). Furthermore, I honestly don't think the CIA sponsoring green groups could really win against reasonable Australians (for the most part, we are) plus the likes of Rio Tinto, BHP Billiton (the revenue of both these companies combined is 3 times the entire budget of the CIA) and other mining companies.

reply to post by Jace26


Budget for the CIA is less than 50 billion dollars per year, whereas the GDP of Australia is $1.57 trillion dollars.